Which One Is Best?

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  1. Eddie Maverick

    Eddie Maverick General Garageman

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    Damn, that looks downright sexy in there.
    It could also be the tequila I'm drinkin, but damn.....
     
  2. ratio411

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    I thought that one could have been excuted a little cleaner.
    If you think that one is sexy, you'll love these!
    You'll notice that not all are in Mavericks, some are in 65 Stangs.
    I have saved those pics too though because the engine bays are the same width tower to tower AND those Stangs use the same headers for the swap as a Mav. So to see a C in a 65 Stang is pretty much identical to looking at one in a Mav.
     
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    More pics.
    One or two are B302s... Look amost just like a C in there.
     
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    Drool....:bowdown:
    Makes me want to put a 351 in mine, but I have almost everything for my 302 now. And i just got headers for the 302.

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    Hey Jim,
    Did you ever find out what years and types of 351s are available?
    Just curious...
    IMO the earlier engines are best... 69-73 for the W, or 70 for the C.
     
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    This has to be one of my all time favorite Mav's.

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    The Cleveland exhaust face on the heads is at a 45* angle to the ground. The 302/351W is nearly vertical to the ground. The hard part about the bolts on a Cleveland exhaust is you almost have to access all from under the car, unless you shave the towers. I consider that a must with any of the three. It was the first thing I did on mine after I pulled the 302 out. And after installing the 331 and the headers, it was the best investment I made in this car.
     
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    Thanks for all the great info. I did not realize that you could not have a 4 speed behind the 351, and only a floor shift automatic.

    I had planned on installing a toploader behind the 351, so I guess it's back to finding a 302 for the car. I am also not crazy about cutting the shock towers. Too traditional, I guess.

    I am not planning on racing, anyway, so I guess a 302 would make more sense for my application. A 351 would have been eye candy, anyway.

    Again, thanks for the advice.

    Jim
     
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    That's a '69.5.. Awesome car!
     
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    I like 72 for my Clevelands, good thick walls for boring.
     
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    There's no reason you cannot use a manual trans behind a Cleveland in a Maverick. I think you misunderstood ratio411's post. He said it wasn't possible with the stock manifolds. Nothing said there about headers and a 4 speed. If it can be done in a 65-66 Stang or any other shock tower equpped Ford/Merc, it can be done in a Maverick. Some day when I'm done with my V8 Ranger, the Toploader 4 speed in it, will find a new home in my 77 Comet. I've no doubt it'll fit behind the 331 and with the Hedman long tube headers. Ditto for a Cleveland in front of it too.
     
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    Yeah, I meant that a manual tranny wouldn't fit with the stock manifolds.
    This is assuming that you would use the stock clutch linkage too.
    If you went with a cable clutch, or hydraulic set up, you could use the manual tranny.
    The problem with the stock manifolds on a Cleveland is the driver side exit is right at the Maverick Z-bar. I suppose the Fords that came with Clevelands had more room so the equalizer wasn't cramped. Our equalizer bar is a tight fit from day one.

    That said, there are more than one style of manifold.
    There might be one out there that works and I just never had it to try.
    The ones I had all exited the same on that side.
    The passenger sides are very different though, from model to model.
    I think I ended up using a 70 Stang passenger side... or was it a Torino:huh:
     
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    Where did you find this out?

    I have always gone for the 70s because of the higher nodularity and they were supposed to be the thickest.:huh:

    I know the nodularity is true, but the thickness part was heresay.

    I also know that the non-Boss 4 bolt main 351s, aka Cobra Jet, were the thinnest. I read an old Super Ford article where they sonic tested every Cleveland in sight and the CJs were all paper thin.
    IIRC, the article said to pick up a Boss block (I guess they were on every corner then) or get a 70 block and convert to 4 bolt.
     
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    I have my blocks sonic checked, my bored .030 to .040 over 72 blocks have been thicker than stock blocks after boring.
     
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    In that case, anyone want a 72 Cleveland ?????? I got one to sell.........................std bore--std crank..................never been apart since it left Ford................
     

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