Should Ford bring back the Mav?

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  1. PINKY

    PINKY .....John Ford.....

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    agree :lolup:
     
  2. dmhines

    dmhines Dixie Maverick Boy

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    Ford should do a Maverick like Toyota does the Scion or like BMW does the Mini .... Customize it online with all types of available options and then have it delivered to the dealer. Every car would be unique, one of a kind and built for you .... a Maverick!
     
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    I concur also:D
     
  4. ATOMonkey

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    Make the deck a little longer and add a duck tail spoiler. It's just just a little too much fast back looking in the back. Also, the quarters should follow the fender line more. I'm trying to think of what I'm trying to say. Instead of the main body line being completely flat it should arch over the rear wheels to give it a more muscular look. The car should have a slight forward rake to it too. Either with the wheels/tires or the main body line should be higher at the deck than it is at the fender. The hood could also extend a little farther forward. If you look at the maverick in profile, the hood extends just as far or further forwad than the bumper. That'll make the front end look much more aggressive.

    I'm really digging that concept drawing! Very nice. I love the roof line and the recessed headlights with the covers. I wish I had that kind of talent.

    I think the new Mav should be an AWD turbo 6 or RWD naturally aspirated with the AWD turbo being the Grabber or Stallion model. They could use that DOHC 60 degree 6. mmmmmmm.... I can see it now.
     
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    scooper77515 No current projects.

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    I can't see the picture???

    And no, they shouldn't bring it back. "They would just screw it up"

    Besides, it really was just a smaller and cheaper version of the Mustang, and I barely fit in the new Mustangs as it is.

    (I couldn't see the pic so didn't read all the posts, just jumped to the reply, so forgive me if I repeated someone)

    EDIT--OK, now I read the posts. I agree, it would end up being a fancy BLINGED Focus with the old Maverick badge. If they could do it right, right meaning it really looked kinda like a maverick, but with newer technology, better handling, etc. I would go for it.
     
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  6. ATOMonkey

    ATOMonkey Adam

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    right click "open link in new window" Should work.

    If they have the same people on the design team that did the mustang, then I don't think they'll screw it up. I'm sure some bean counter will show numbers saying that the market is flooded with retro-rods right now and there's no room for another one, so they'd make it an unrecognizable jelly bean like the fusion and the new mercury.

    Cars need more style. You should be able to take a quick glance and say exactly what it is. If I dont' see the badge I normally can't identify what it is anymore.
     
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  7. Thack

    Thack vision advicator

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    I would say no..............Fords going under now another car line that would be very close to the same as the mustang wouldn't help. Besides I prefer making my own new maverick :D
     
  8. Bum's_Steer

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    Yes, I suggested the same thing to him about the hood, grill, general front facia....tilt it forward instead of back, like the original Mavs were, and that would do alot to seperate it from the everyothercars.

    The problem that makes for him is it's hard to do the slant-foward grill and facia incorporating the headlights the new cars all have without it looking a little too Mustang-like, thus losing the Maverick personality.

    But, he's working on it, and some updates and re-drafts. I suggested a rear-panel view incorporating some "updated" Mav-style tail lights.

    Another thing he's running into is there seems to be several sides to the "bring back some old names" trend. Some want total retro, making the new versions look as much like the old one as possible, others just want the name back with a fresh new design, not a copy of an old one, and yet another group that wants both, new designs with retro hints of the old, which is more the way he tends to base his designs.

    As for the "total retro" trend, I'm not so much for it, not that I don't absolutely LOVE the new Mustangs and the Challenger concept, but think about this......look at a 67 Camaro, and a 71 Camaro.....both beautiful cars, but if Chevy based it's second generation Camaro to be a "retro" of the first, the Camaro would have never advanced to other designs, and a 2002 Camaro would have remained largley unchanged from the first 67's....and that would be boring.

    Compare just about any popular car that's been around since the 60's and 70's,....and look how much they changed every few years. From the square-bodied "boxy" 64 GTO, to the more swoopy, rounded and streamlined 70 GTO. Both classics styles, both beautiful, both GTO's, but very very different. If you had never seen either before, and saw them for the first time, side-by-side,....you wouldn't have a clue they were both GTO's.

    The Mustang is another fine example, from the "half" fastback roofline of the 64-66's, to the full fastback of the 67-68's, to the curved, shaped fastback to a spoiler line of the 69-70's to the long flat fastbacks of 71-73, to the Mustang II's, the 79-93 angle-hatch, to the rounded "bubble" fastback roofline of the 94-04's. something for everybody, all beautiful in their own personal way, all very different, all Mustangs.

    I think whatever design someone comes up with, the emphasis should be on distinction. Even if it's an entirely new design, it should stand out. It should set that car apart from others and make it recognizable as "that" car.

    That's my complaint with the new GTO's.....it's not that it's not nice looking, it is,.....but, it's indistinct from alot of other cars, and the name GTO deserves a look of it's own, something to set it apart.

    To give credit to today's designers though, that's no easy feat. In the 60's and 70's, there were only a handful of models from a handful of automakers, setting your "look" apart wasn't too hard to do. But now, there's hundereds of automakers making thousands of diffent models, and lots of design restrictions, new technology, and safety issues you're confined to and have to contend with. No matter what you come up with, there'll always be an "it's been done" factor involved.

    That's what my son is dealing with in his designs... some retro touches to hint to it's heritage, but not so much that it's just a "new" rehash of the old design, then, add to that, something new to set it apart from everything else, when "everything else" numbers in the thousands.
     
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    That drawing is fantastic! Ford is working on a new small car right now. Mabe someone there will see this. I think they have a hit with the Fusion. I read that the engineer that designed the '05 Mustang had a '74 or newer Maverick when he came to this country. They must be aware of the Maverick sales records.
     
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    Son says "From your lips to Ford's ear!" LOL (he also says thanks for the compliment)

    He drew a Challenger concept too, and sent it in to Popular Hot Rodding, since they were the ones who promoted Rick Horton's retro Camaro concept. Two weeks later, Dodge's own Challenger concept hit the road. Maybe that's why PHR never even published his. Bad timing! :huh: Oh well.

    He's also got a really nice new Chevelle concept. Maybe he should just send that and the Maverick concepts straight to Chevy and Ford.


    Personally, I'd like to see a new Maverick, or Grabber come out, no matter who designs it,... but it'd just have to be a RWD with both 6 and V-8 availabilty, otherwise, if it's just another front-wheeler 4 or 6, I'd just assume they skip the Maverick or Grabber name.

    Here's something else I was thinking about.....notice how almost no cars give you a choice between 2 or 4 doors anymore?

    Nearly, if not all models are either strictly a 2 door, or 4.

    Imagine how many 2-doors Chargers Dodge would have sold had the public been given the choice.
     
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  11. DarthMaverick

    DarthMaverick The Yang of Mavericks

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    One problem.....

    Ford already has a newer model Maverick in Europe. They would have to rebadge that one first. It's an SUV. I don't think wheels would do the Maverick justice. It would have to be a flying alloy car like the Red Barchetta(RUSH). That's right! The Maverick would be Ford's first flying car! They could buy the rights off of Molder industries.
     
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    I doubt it would have been that many. 4-door cars are more popular than 2-door cars.

    Example of both a 2-door and a 4-door in the same body style:

    Ford Focus
    Pontiac Grand AM
    Dodge Neon
     
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    I think the drawing is pretty cool but would like to see it with more of the headlights and grill being pointed down for aero instead of back and up make the top of the grill the apex and then the hood come up and back, shaped like a mav hood? how about a 67-68 based cougar instead of the ugly one they were making a couple of years ago? im sure he could do that one justice(y) round that design to be more modern/aerodynamic with just the solid front hideaway headlight grill setup.:2cents:
     
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    RabidCustoms sic minds demand sic toys

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    not to take any thunder away from your sons efforts(he appears to be very talented)

    edit: 1st try didnt work...

    heres a link to some maverick next gen images that a friend has done.
    http://www.cafepress.com/UNIQUEAV06
     
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    A new Maverick would be cool, unless it looked like the european Escape SUV thing, then I'd have to pass on that one. If they did it right, then there would be a tough decision in my future: a Mustang, Challenger or Maverick? Hmmm...
     

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