problem starting car

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  1. duster70

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    ya i am a novist andyea that yellow thing is like the thing I turned. and the choke thing is closed so I have to get it to open, im going to try this stuff out this weekend and see what happens. now for the spark plugs which ones do i get and do i have to get the wires too? Is it easy to put in new spark plugs or should I just get someone else to do it??thanks for all the help everyone!!
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    spark plugs on an I-6 are a cakewalk.
    Buy standard Autolites, not the platinums. buy some graphite lube for the spark plug threads also to make the next change easier. go slow the first time, but youll get to where you can do it in about 15 minutes. the most critical part is making sure you start the plug by hand, and dont cross thread the plug in.
     
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    yes tighten it by hand and then tighten it a lil with a socket rench. DO NOT TIGHTEN THE WHOLE SPARK PLUG BY THE SPCKET WRENCH AND DONT TIGHTEN IT AS MUCH AS YOU CAN. if tou do you could break the spark plug off inside the moter. go with auto lights for spark plugs. but for the wires go with xcell there racing wires thel cost u like 5 bucks a wire but there worth it.
     
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    hey people. I just want to know about the spark plugs and stuff. How do you take em out and how do you put the other ones in? Is there some specific size I need or something? And about the starter, how much is a new one? I checked the fuel line on the car, from the fuel filter until the carburetor and it was not clogged. I found out the choke plate was not working right. it was open at all times. it was not connected to the gas pedal and stuff. i fixed that, but didnt try turning it on again because the battery didnt have enough power. i tried turning it on without the air filter and one time it did turn on. just died again. One thing I noticed was that sometimes when a i turned it on, some gas or smoke would fly out of the carburetor. I also took offf the carb.(just the top half) There was some little area that has gas in it. there some sort of float also. Its supposed to have gas right? how much? What if I change the spark plugs and it still wont work???? My uncle said that something is wrong with the carb.(i dont know if he knows about cars, he just told me). what do I do now? I know im messing around with the car alot, im just trying to see how stuff works. hope i didnt mess anything up :slap: Thanks alot for all the help!!!!:tiphat: :29: :tiphat:
     
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    i dont know which plugs the I6 uses. there are two standard size of socket wrench/plug, 5/8 and 13/16 . you normally get at least one of these in a special socket with your socket set it is deeper and has a bolt like bottom so you can turn it with a wrench as well.chances are high that if you already have a socket set and it came with the 5/8 then you will need the 13/16. I call that the 50/50 rule. so if you follow the spark plug wire from the cap to the motor, it will be on the plug at the other end. just pull the wire, by the boot off of that plug and use the socket to remove it. i would take out the first one and take that with you since you are just learning and that way you can make sure you buy the right plugs. also if you dont have one, buy a plug gapping tool. when you get the plugs, adjust the gap on each plug to be a little snug on the target size. you will want to be careful not to break the little electrode off while doing this. now one at a time put the new plug in where you remove each wire and old plug. as stated, finger tighten so you dont cross thread, then snug up with the socket wrench. then put that plug wire back on. then move to the next plug. this will help you also not get two plug wires crossed. sorry if any of that was too basic, but it sounded like your first time doing this type of operation. trust me, after the first time this will be a 10-15 min job(y)
     
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    its cool it was basic enough for me to understand:D anyhow, I understand what to do now, but how do you adjust the gap thingy? thats all I dont understand. thanks alot! Do you think the spark plugs could be my probelm? thanks for the help!:tiphat:
     
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    You may want to find a book with some step by steps and pics (maybe at the library) or go to some car repair sites and learn some of the basics. since you pulled the carb apart, hopefully you didnt knock anything out of alignment or misplace/position the parts. all you want to do is remove the filter and replace it with another of the same kind. it should be screwed into the front of the carb and have a nut like area on it and the fuel line clamped on it. make sure that section of rubber line isnt too cracked as well. as for gapping the plug, when you pull it out, the end that goes inside the engine will have a metal prong off one side that goes over the end. the gapping tool will have a little tab for bending that prong closer or further from the end of the plug.also most books will tell you how to read that plug to see if your car is running too rich or burning oil in a cylinder or so on. if at all possible, you may want to find another member who lives close by to learn some of those basics also. i watched my grandfather and father for years and learned a great deal that way. also with a 70 did you replace the points with electronic ignition?
     
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    no I didnt, why? thanks for the help
     
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    You can tell by the color of the end of the spark plug. If it is white is buring lean, dark- it is buring to rich, and you can tell if it is burning oil by the smell or color of exhaust smoke.
     
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    a 70 has points and condensor under the distributor cap. if they are burnt or have lost their gap, it will not run worth a crud. this is a fairly easy replacement and adjustment, it just gets old doing it every other month. when i was running points still i could set them to factory specs and then fine tune them in and tell by the cars power and response if they were off a little bit within even the factory specs.they make a big difference in how your car runs if at all. If you want i can try and give you a step by step to change those as well, but i would concentrate on what you have so far and see how it runs.
     
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    oh ok. Ill change the spark plugs and see if it turns on. IF that doesnt work out, do I change the points and condensor? yea ill need step by step help with that lol thanks alot. Can you tell me a price range for what i need to replace the points and stuff? thanks alot:tiphat:
     
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    another question: to what size or whatever do i need to gap the spark plugs? Do I just gap it to the same size as the spark plugs it already had?
     
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    I just remembered something else. when ive tried to start the car, there is sometimes some backfire and sometimes it sounds like engine is gonna break or something
     
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    When i got my maverick it did somthing like this. The problem was, was that my muffeler was clogged.

    Yeah it blew a whole about like what my 12 gauge would do to a pop can, in the stock exhaust.
     
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    My last comment was directed twards this quote
    Also there might be a fuel and air mix problem like a whole in one of the gaskets or in a carb spacer like mine.
     

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