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  1. Grabber5.0

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    Prob not it but could be vapor lock in the tank? Take gas cap off and try again. If that works check the vent tube for blockage. Other thing, and this happened to me, the tang could have broken off the fuel pump eccentric and the fuel pump is no longer being driven all the time. And the rare possibility they gave you a bad fuel pump, but we won't talk about that. ;)
     
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    jamie it sounds like it has an airleak in the fuel line or the screen in the tank is plugged take your cap off and blow air back through the line from your motor end. if there is dirt in the screen that will clear it out.make sure you unhook it at the pump.i had this problem on stuff before and that cured it.
     
  3. Jamie Miles

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    Ok, I just went out and fired it up and pulled the gas cap off. That didn't do any good. My fuel sender is in VERY nice shape but when I pulled it out of the other car the screen/filter thing fell off into the tank and into a bunch of old gas, so there is no actual screen on the sender, just the pipe pointing down. I decided to take it for a ride around my neighborhood and it ran ok as long as I didn't get into the gas to hard. Once I got almost back to my house it died and wouldn't start back up. I had to use my moms Taurus to push it back to the house and back up the driveway (neighbors were lookin' at me like I had lost my mind... (y) ) I opend the hood and the piece of clear tube I used is alot thinner then normal gas line. It was compressed in on itself like it had suction on it collapseing it. I pulled it off and it sprung back to normal. Then I went back and pulled the rubber line off the fule sending unit and gas dumped out of the tank, so it's not anything in there.

    So at this point it's gotta be something clogging the steel line that runs from the front to the back of the car. :huh:
     
  4. Earl Branham

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    Jamie; on a Ford fuel pump, you have to get the lever under the eccentric, or it won't move enough to pump. Pull the pump, insert the lever down, under the eccentric, and up. It will give you resistance, but it is supposed to. Bolt it in and give it a try. I made the same mistake the first pump I put in.
     
  5. Jamie Miles

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    I'm fairly sure I got it in right, but I will pull it back out and make sure, you never know.

    Right now I gotta go pick Tylar up from work with my mom's Taurus. Man, I already miss driving it. :huh:
     
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    I have found that if I have the engine on TDC I have minimal resistance. I am curious about the clear hose and I also wonder about the pump ecentric, I am sure you compared the pump and levar, I have seen at least two variations and they were close but not exact, lever curved slightly different. How about the rubber hose under the driver floorboard area, how does it look?:hmmm:
     
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    There's a short section of rubber line right around where the doors are that may be split Jamie. Check that out too.
     
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    If the line is collapsing on the inlet side like you say it is and you've tried running it with the fuel cap off then it could be is a clogged line from the pump to the tank or possibly a collapsed portion of the steel lne. If you had a cracked line you would be sucking in air, what you are experiencing is a vacuum. You'll have to pull the line off at the pump and the tank and blow the line out from ft.to back as it's likely clogged more at the back and also check the entire length of the steel section to make sure it's not collapsed. Hope this works for you.
     
  9. Jamie Miles

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    I didn't even know that rubber hose was there! Thanks! I just pulled it loose, very little gas came out. I took some more clear tubeing and put it on the front steel line and stuck it down in a can of 2 stroke gas (it's all I had), turned the key and in a split second it sucked that dark blue gas right up the clear line and the car fired right up and ran normal and revs normal and everything. So I have it narrowed down to the steel line that goes from the back to the rubber hose you guys were talking about. I just pulled it out and am going to try shooting some carb cleaner and stuff down it.

    Man it was good to hear it run normal again. I was starting to get kinda drug down. I appreciate it!
     
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    I missed the hose being on the inlet side, maybe its fixed but the hose is new problem? Yea I would blow the line out also and check all hoses for collapsing too. I believe someone mentioned before to remember to remove the gas cap before blowing your brains out,LOL
     
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    The clear hoses are temporary to help figgure out the problem, just a little trick my grandpa showed me a while back. The normal lines will go back on when I'm positive I have it fixed and before the car ever hits the road.

    I pulled the steel line completely out from under the car. It was only like 4 or 5 screws. It's kind of rusty and I'm going to check it over real good and hit it with a 3M rust removing wheel in the drill press and spray a little paint on it before I put it back on.
     
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    Buy some new tubing and bend it. If its rusting on the inside, it will probably cause problems again.
     
  13. Jamie Miles

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    It's not rusting on the inside, just the outside. I found 2 places where it is smashed flat. If I didn't know any better, I would say someone took a hammer and purposely smashed it by the looks of it...

    I got it straightend out and ran some carb cleaner though it and a bunch of black gunk came out. I then hooked it to an old eletric fuel pump I have laying around and a BUNCH more black gunk came out. I stuck one end of the steel line in a gas can and let the old electric pump pull gas though until it flowed clear. Put it back on the car with a new fuel filter and all seems to be well again. :clap:

    So I don't really think the pump was the problem, but it was on my mental list of things to change anyways.

    I appreciate all the help.
     
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    Def not a bad idea. Glad to hear it's straightened out.
     
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    Dennis is right....replace the old steel line with new. If it had a bunch of gunk in it, you can bet there is more still there just waiting to clog it up again. Most parts stores sell pre fab steel tubing in sections, just get the proper fittings to connect it, bend to fit and you won't have to worry about it anymore!
     

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