Maverick Bargain....

Let's put this one to bed.

IF...I were in the business of selling cars for a living, I sell houses, I would not have a problem referring to a Maverick as a 'Coupe'.
'Coupe' just sounds sporty. 'Sedan', no excitement there.
I see no fault with the technical infraction.


The point made over values of these cars. There are people who claim to have $40K for instance in a rotisserie resto of a Shelby or a '69 Z28, or a Hemi Challenger. I know a guy personally who has $35K in a '57 Chevrolet that is only worth $20K-$25K. And that does not include his time.

The costs involved in restoration DO have an impact on what a car is worth. However, values are rarely ever dollar for dollar equal to the cost of restoration.

There is a market price for any collector vehicle. Supply and Demand set that price together.

Potentially, as more and more Comet/Maverick parts are reproduced and competition increases in the parts business for these cars, prices for those parts will come down. That should make restorations more affordable, and if interest in these cars continues to rise, values of the cars will rise as well. That goes for those restored and in need of a rebuild.

You can still buy an avg/poor condition Comet/Maverick for under $500 bucks in most areas of the US. And it would probably be running.
Try and find a '65-'68 Mustang for that price. You will pay $1,000 minimum for one in poor condition not running in my area of NC. However, the parts are readily available and most are much cheaper than Comet/Maverick parts.


Look at that gold '72 selling for $4,600 as a good step in the right direction. If that keeps happening, resto parts will become more plentiful and affordable, while car prices continue to rise.


My last $.02

Seth

 

Really? Well that's just plain dishonest advertising then. You're saying it's okay to "sugar coat" something by calling it something it's not, in order to make it sound more appealing (sportier) to potential buyers. I don't approve of tactics like that. Is that how you sell houses? By misleading potential buyers?...

 

Well stated littleredtoy. A little over a year ago, I paid $1200 for a rust free 72 with a 302, A/C, P/S & it was a nice driver. The lady was the second owner since 1978. It needed body, paint(original) & interior & had a 160,000 mile on it. It has the same exterior trim package the ebay car has(Ugly). It would take me more than the $4600 that car sold for, for my car match that cars condition. Some of you guys need to give your Mavericks a little more credit for their value.

 

Did you not say this about the car in question?

The $1995 advertised Maverick was a bare bones, stripped down, no optioned, 6 cyl with manual transmission. One optioned out like this car was considerable more. Isnt that sugarcoating the truth to make your point more appealing?

 

T.L........

It's one thing to use descriptive terminology when marketing any item to attract more interest and a totally different thing to falsify information.

Someone on a previous post mentioned looking up definitions for the word 'coupe' and posted a definition.

My Second College Edition of The American Heritage Dictionary reads this way:

cou pe (koop) n. 2 A closed two-door automobile.

So, there! Stop acting like this guy pasted SuperSport emblems on a Malibu and sold it as an SS Chevelle.

It's not the same thing!

 

well, MY title for my mav. lists it as a 2 door coupe.. so, I'll advertise it as a coupe if I want to.. geez.. don't get all hot and bothered.. anyways, I too see this mav going for so much as a step in a good direction.. heck, if a mustang can sell for 40k.. then 4k for a maverick isn't hard to believe in my opinion.

 

Okay, so with the V-8, auto & A/C the car was probably $2600 new. Listen folks, real estate appreciates (increases in value) over time. Cars do not, unless they are very rare. All of that wear & tear did NOT increase the car's value by $2000. The body & engine compartment looks great--the interior looks atrocious. TRY to get a bank to loan you $4600 for a '72 Maverick with a partial restoration...it ain't gonna happen.


Also, the dictionary is hardly an authority on automotive design and styling. ALL MAVERICKS ARE SEDANS....a coupe is NOT simply "any 2-door car". If it has a post between the door and rear quarter glass, IT'S A SEDAN, if it doesn't, it's a coupe...PERIOD. The information on a registration can easly be wrong...I have owned vehicles that had erronias information on the registration. The DMV doesn't know one car from the next and issue millions of registrations. It just amazes me that people will argue with facts. I am NOT saying that the seller on eBay was being dishonest...I am sure he truly believes that the car is a "coupe". Like I said, it's not THAT important, just something that has always irritated me a bit...

 

Well go to nada.com. You have to look under sports car to find Mavericks. and look a maverick or comet up they have two books one for new cars one for Old the Prices do go up on the older cars and right now the 70s cars are going up look at all the 70s cars don't have to be a maverick But a 72 Maverick 2 Door Sedan
High is $3,910 and Average is $2,616 that’s just adding the v8 you add the LDO and A/C to that and it would be the right price

 

Well I can appreciate that, BUT you should also be aware that N.A.D.A. is only used by dealerships...Banks use the Kelly Bluebook which figures are different from those in N.A.D.A.

Here's one; when someone runs a stop sign and slams into your Maverick with the $2000 paint-job and about $6000 worth of restoration, and totals it, just SEE how much the insurance company gives you for it. Won't be 8000 bucks. Won't be $4000. How much do you think it'll be??...

 

That is why you get classic car insurance or have it a set price. Mine is $8.000 and my car is not done yet it cost me 100 a year state farm and when it is done I will have Reappraised. Set up for what it will take to replace it. I can drive it how much I like. It is a weekend car for me. If you have a classic car you could have $30.000 in it and if you just get full coverage insurance you would get what the low books says don't matter if it’s a AAR Cuda or yenko Nova or Shelby Gt 500

 

kelly blue book don't cover any from 1983 and older so they look at the Nada book but the car insurance is a raket just have to cover it for set price and the insurance will still try to bargin with you even if its a set price

 

I know all about classic car insurance and it's obviously the way to go, but gee, why would someone need specialty insurance on a car that's worth "SO much"?? Get my point?...

Look people, I love Mavericks as much (or even more) as you do, but the fact remains that they are NOT "worth" a lot of money compared to many other classic cars. There are Pinto and Vega websites for enthusiasts of those cars and they think they're great but ya know what?--They are worth even LESS than Mavericks. If someone spends 10 grand fixing up a Yugo, it's STILL a Yugo and not worth squat. They basically spent money on the car that they will never get back out of it. Obviously the guy who bought the Maverick on eBay could afford the price and was willing to pay it, so let's just hope he enjoys the car. It would have to be MINT-condition for me to have spent $2000 more than the original new price. To me, with the bodywork/paint, rebuilt engine and detailed engine compartment, it was worth about $3000...

 

We're getting on his nerves...

Hey, TL.

Would you consider a '66 Mustang COUPE, that means not a convertible or fastback, 'very rare'? Whether it is a 6 cyl. or a 289 I wouldn't consider it very rare. They only made about a half million per year up until '68 when they still made probably 400,000 of them annually after that. There are '66 mustangs in garages and backyards all over the world. Few were ever crushed due to the fact that people have been restoring them since the mid 70's and probably before that. There has always been an interest in that model lineup.

Many of them today sell for way more than what they sold for new. They aren't rare unless they are a GT, or a 'K' code car with original equipment.

Comets and Mavericks are getting rarer everyday because the general consensus has been that they are not collectible.

This sale of the gold '72 proves that someone thought it would be worth what he paid sometime after he drove it out of the dealers lot, and probably hopes it to be worth even more sometime.

Let's stop the bickering about coupes and sedans, I know what a sedan is, as well as a coupe. I agree that the Comets and Mavs are sedans, but if someone called my car a coupe I wouldn't be offended, just proud that they recognized it as a Comet instead of a Maverick.

Let's have some fun. Following are my two choices for vehicles that will have collectible interest in the future.

1) Pintos!
2) 1970's Toyoya and Datsun pickups-remember those, with there odd colors, tiny cabs, multi-colored stripe packages...

What else do you guys think people will have an interest in collecting and restoring some day?

 

No, you're not getting on my nerves. I've considered this a "friendly" debate from the begining.

To answer your question: No, I do not consider Mustangs to be rare...however we all know that they are one of the most popular American cars ever (more popular than Mavericks), hence the high prices. Personally, I'd rather have the Maverick, unless the Mustang was a Shelby.

Maverick enthusiastes have always been a minority group. It will be great if you turn out to be correct and the collectability and value of Mavericks/Comets skyrocket. Wouldn't hurt my feelings a bit.

By the way, I still have MY first car too (the Maverick). Last summer some guy I'd never seen before walked up to me and asked if I wanted to sell it. I gave him a firm "no". Didn't even bother to find out how much he was willing to pay for it...didn't care either...

 

Plus if you have the documentation, you can sue the guy that hit you for the difference.