Guys I need some help now!

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    I think I got mine for something like $10. It is a bar with slots in it..when you pull the steering wheel pad off there are two threaded holes in there. There should be bolts that come with the puller. You would secure the puller to the wheel this way, centering it over the steering shaft. Oh yeah, you will need to pull the big nut off the end of the steering shaft (I think it is 1 1/8"..it is pretty big). You then tighten the center threaded piece of the puller..it will put pressure on the end of the steering shaft. You tighten it until the wheel pops off...
     
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    well you dont exactly need a puller but if you worried about damage then i would recomend it. what you can do is hit the bolt with a heavy hammer and pull on the steering wheel at the same time. i did that but im restoring mine with a donor at my side so it may not be for you. if you got an autozone u should be able to borrow a puller tho
     
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    The lock will probably break if you hit the wheel hard enough(this is the car thief way to do it)..but of course there is a chance of damage to the steering column that way...
     
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    Well I don't want to damage anything too bad, but even if I get a puller I don't think I'd know how to use it. I mean my car doesn't even have the factory steering wheel. It has a little small one with a chrome cap in the center.

    And even if I do get the steering wheel lock disengaged how do I hotwire my car to get it home?

    Also........is there anyway I can just bust the ignition lock? I tried drilling it out but maybe I didn't drill far enough.....I don't understand this.....when I was a kid my dad had cars that didn't need a key, he just busted the lock.....what am I doing wrong?
     
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    it aint hard to do at all and you should be able to get the old tumbler out with out the keys a new tumblur costs any were from 10 - 15 bucks at a car parts store the way i know this is cause i have a jeep with a ford igniton switch and when ever i lost a key my dad just replaced the tumbler it's realy easy
     
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    should be much easier without the factory wheel. Take the chrome cap off the center and you should see the big nut. There is probably some kind of adapter underneath that the lock "nub" is sticking into...it has been a while since I had an aftermarket wheel on my car, but I don't think you need a puller to get that adapter off.
    I would not pull the wires all apart and try hotwiring if it were me..I would try to get access to the top of the column to get to the ignition switch. There is a metal linkage "pin" that goes from the cylinder down to the switch itself..if you could get that out of the switch you could manually operate the switch to start the car...
     
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    I'm sure you could break the ignition cylinder, but I am thinking risk of damage would be high..I am not sure the best way to even go about doing that...
     
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    Ok this is what I have after pulling off the steering wheel and I don't feel like I'm any closer to getting at the ignition. And I can get past the steering wheel lock now, but I have to have the steering wheel off and hold the little nub out of the way with a screwdriver. So where do I go from here? How do I get out the old lock cylinder and put in a new one?
     

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    how do I remove the alluminum piece? there's no more bolts, and when I tried to pry it off it messed up the column
     
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    Not sure how to get the ignition cylinder out when it is in that condition...I seem to remember that you have to have it in 'run' for it to normally go come out...

    That aluminum piece is the adapter that I was talking about. Looks like you would have to get a puller to get it off..bolts would go into at least 2 of the 3 threaded holes so you can push against the center steering shaft.
     
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    well for the ignition ive always ran the hammer screwdriver thing
     
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    Just got back from running all over town trying to find a wheel puller. So here's how it stands:

    I cannot get a wheel puller
    I cannot break the lock
    It needs to come out so I can drive it home

    I've pretty much ran out of stuff to do. I've tried hammers, screwdrivers, tire irons, drills, nothing works. And to make it all worse I can't figure out how to permenantly destroy the steering wheel lock. I can push the little nub in, but when I turn the wheel it locks again, this will be no good for trying to push/pull it home.

    You guys make it sound like this has never happened before, that someone has had an ignition that wouldn't go into the ON position. There has got to be a way to remove it without moving it to ON.

    If all else fails I will try to find a way to destroy the wheel lock nub, but how do I hotwire my car to get it started? I tried jumping the solenoid terminals and it spun over, but didn't start.
     
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    I've never dealt with an ignition cylinder that was broken like that. If it didn't turn before it got broken like that, I don't know how to make it turn now...

    With enough side force, the nub will break, that is how car thiefs would drive away after hot wiring the car.

    You have to get power to the coil to get the motor to run.The actual ignition switch is mounted on top of the steering column, about half way down. If you can get to that and disconnect the linkage that goes back to the cylinder, the car should start. You may have to unbolt the column from the dash to lower it a bit so you can get to the switch...
     
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    where on the column is the switch? Is it on the upper part (metal housing) or lower part (plastic housing)? How about a picture of a steering column with a little arrow pointing to where it is so I can try to get to it.
     
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    In this pic(best I could do on the quick), the arrow is pointing to the appoximate area of the ignition switch...you can see the wires going to it. There is linkage that goes back up the column to the ignition cylinder...
     

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