4 1/4 BS for the rear with 275-60x15 will it fit

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  1. Maverick Man

    Maverick Man The Original Maverick Man

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    Two 1973 LDO Mavericks (one 4 Drag one 4 driving like Mad on the roads :) ) also have a 75 6cyl Stock! Ok, well sort of Stock :P
    :p right nice fit (y) but i see a helper clamp... :D :D

    anyways.... sorry but thats bit too close for me... kinda my point...

    personally i don't think i'd run a set of slicks that close.. i can see it now wrinke then a really nice cut in the side wall! :D

    also notice you got some cut or wedged off trac bars... thats kinda cool... am i seeing that right?
     
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    Helper clamps... :hmmm: nothing that I have put on the leafs, I have had the car for 25 years and knew the old lady that owned it before me, so the clamps came from the factor :huh:

    Yes the traction bars have been modified, cause...guess what they were WAY to close.

    I like the tire fit, but yes it is to close...but it does work.

    Its been fun... :tiphat:
    Todd
     
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    Derrick, I think the clamp you see is the mount for his traction bar. It's true, I do have shackles, but shackles don't move the tire outboard from the spring. Plenty of people have gotten away with this size on these cars. His question if I remember was about regular tires rather than slicks. I ran my 28x10.50 Goodyear slicks on a wheel with 3 3/4 BS and had no trouble going in a straight line, but got a slight rub turning onto the return road with 12 lbs in them if I went more than a slow crawl. I don't think I would have run those slicks on the 4 1/4 BS Cragars. My current slicks are stiff sidewall circle track Hoosiers 26x11.50 on 15x10 wheels with 4" BS. I'm sure they would rub on launch If I didn't have those stupid shackles on there. One of these days I'll get some four leafs or something so I can put the springs on with the top bolt holes like I wanted to do originally, but for now, big tires mean big shackles. That is until the day I find myself under the car with a torch cutting out the whole backend to tub it. I've been fighting that urge for a long while now...

    I forgot to mention, I had to trim my slapper bars as well to avoid cutting up my tires.
     
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    Two 1973 LDO Mavericks (one 4 Drag one 4 driving like Mad on the roads :) ) also have a 75 6cyl Stock! Ok, well sort of Stock :P
    ray i guess what i mean is if you didn't have the shackles (having maverick at stock height.. which is sagging :D ) it would rub in the inner fender with that backspace... if it was a 4-1/4

    .... but then again i don't read and it seems you have a 4 inch backspace anyways. i guess to my orginal point....

    as this is the same point you are making as well... a 4in bs will work. so thats all i'm trying to say.. i mean why go 4-1/4 when 4 will work just fine (like what you have) with less of a hassle and less chance in rubbing on the leaf regardless of slick or not.... to me thats just asking for something that could be avoided in the first place by getting the correct backspacing. besides most current wheel companies offer only 3-1/2 and 4 and 4-1/2... then again we are all stuck in the stone ages cuz ever thing now is mm offset.

    now try putting those on the TC :p

    ah thats what i though about the traction bar.. looked a bit weird to me. and i think ray is right thats not a helper spring its your traction bar thingy...

    thats ok i'll think of something else to gab about. :D i know! see you have to cut your traction bars :p :biglaugh:

    sorry MaverickGrabber for yapping since this is your post... i'll shut up now... but just go to a 4 inch bs :D .. ok ok i'll really shut up now.
     
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    Derrick-
    My Cragars are 4 1/4 BS. My slicks are on some steelies with 4" BS (0mm offset)

    I've been forced to learn about metric offset recently since I'm fitting some 245/40r17's on my little silver car this spring as well as trying to fit big by large tires on various other wrong wheel drive rigs lately.
     
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    I liked it better when you agreed with me! :biglaugh:
     
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    This is the space with a 275-60-15. I just want to try this upload to see if the resize is rite, ps 4 inch bs, rolled lips
     

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    Two 1973 LDO Mavericks (one 4 Drag one 4 driving like Mad on the roads :) ) also have a 75 6cyl Stock! Ok, well sort of Stock :P
    woah you turning ricer on me :D ... now you can be like me. i'm running 245-45/18s on my everydayer.. rides like a rock :p

    that was someone else.. i liked that ray... your a differant ray... :rofl: anyways didn't some say they were going to 4.5 anyways... to lazy to read... :D
     
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    well on mine the 275-60 prob would not have fit but the 275-50 do http://mmb.maverick.to/showthread.php?p=184487#post184487
     
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    Got my widened wheels back. Added 2" of backspace to turn my 6-inchers into 8s. Quick too. Sent them out Monday of last week and got them back today, that's only 9 business days. You can see where they welded in the 2" strip.
     

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    I'm going to run a set of 17x8.5 Bullitts on my 69.5 Mav with 245-45-17 tires, and yes, I'm planning on using the aluminum double lug spacers

    Re: the spacer's "safety", I saw these comments:


    Okay, the added "breaking point" of a double bolt set-up I can understand, but dangerous because they're aluminum???

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't like 99% of all aftermarket and even many factory wheels (a part vital to car safety) made out of aluminum? LOL

    A friend of mine in Cali road races a highly modified Mustang at breakneck speeds around corners that would make most drivers nervous at normal speeds. He's been running a set of 1" wide "double bolt" spacers (aluminum!!:49: ) for three years under very gruelling conditions and suffered only one breakage, when he slid the rear of his car sideways into a concrete curb at about 40 mph.
    The wheel broke off (a factory Cobra R wheel), A big hole where the center hub used to be. The hub still bolted to the spacer, which was still bolted to the axel, remained, intact, on his car.

    After taking off the spacer for close inspection, there were no stress cracks, no pulled studs, no stripped threads, nothing. The spacer was in perfect condition.

    That pretty much answered any doubts I had about the safety and reliability of the double bolt aluminum spacers.
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    Back on topic, I have a set of steel 15X7 Dodge cop car wheels with 4 or 4.25 backspacing on my Mav right now, and the 275-60-15 tires on them fit nicely, but clearance both on the inside and out is close, and I haven't driven on them to see if there would be any rubbing in real world situations.

    But they sure look cool!
     
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    I think some of the controversy with aluminum spacers is that there are some cheap cast ones out there that won't take much stress. A good machined billet spacer should be more than adequate for 99.99% of users.
     
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    Yeah, it goes without saying that when it comes to anything as important as wheels and related parts that you get the best quality no matter what way you decide to go.

    The spacers I'm looking at for mine are made of really strong 6061 billet aluminum with premium grade studs and lugs.

    I might end up getting them for my 98 Crown Vic Interceptor first though. I've got my Bullitts and tires for thr Mav already, but since it isn't running yet, my 18 year old put them on his Dodge Avenger, and I've just bought another set of Bullitts and tires on ebay that I'm going to try and fit (using the spacers) on the Crown Vic.

    Just for hoots, I'll mount the Vic's 16X7 cop wheels with 225-60-16 tires on the Maverick to see how it looks with the black wheels, rings and cop center caps on it.

    I'd like to try mounting some 245-50-16 tires (common on later Mustangs and Camaros) on the Vic's cop wheels, but I'm not sure if a 50 series tire will do well on a 7 inch wide rim.

    Has anyone out there run 50's on 7 wide rims?
     
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    I'd probably try a 245/50 on a 7" wheel. I've put 245/60's on a 6" wheel before and they were definatley wider than the wheel, but drove great and exibited no problems. Hell, I ran a 295/50r15 on what I'm guessing was a 7" wheel on my courier (pawnshop wheels from a Mitsubishi Montero) and while they bulged a ton, they never gave me any trouble either. It's when you get into 45's and shorter that you really need to be sure the wheel is matched to the tire in my opinion. Not that you shouldn't pay attention with taller sidewalls. The better matched it is, the better the tire will perform and the longer it will last. Particularly in harsh conditions.
    I suppose my point is that you can get away with a lot more than you should.
     
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    Good point. The more sidewall you have, the more lee-way to fit wider tires.


    Definately not the case with real low profile tires. Looking at the 245-45-17's on my Bullitts, I'd never try to mount those on anything less than 8" wide wheels, if you could even get them to go on a 7 in the first place!
     

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