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  1. Catch22

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    I want to get a 9" rear end or just rebuild my 8". What car do i need to look for to get a 9" that well bolt on to a 73 maverick? Ok next Question what all do i need to get to rebuild my 8" like upgrade or somthing like that? I have the reg 73 rear end,Thats a 8" right? I want to try to make it were i can have Modern wheels on it.and to a disk brake conversiton for the rear end. any help would be great! Thanks Marc-Anthony
     
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    if you want rear disc brakes look for the Ford Versailles.........it had a 9 inch rear end with disc brakes.....

    Mustang had a 9 inch as well.just have to go loking in junkyards....some junkyards catalog their stuff.....but if they know it is a 9 they will charge you for it..sometimes you can find a car in the paper that is being parted out.....you could always call and ask....


    if you want to rebuild it.....go to summit racing...they have everything you need........i always drool on the rearend section looking at gears...
    lightweight carriers.....installation kits.....the works....


    i just ended up going to a junkyard and got a rear end from a 79 granada that is an 8 inch i know i wont have to worry about it being bad...after all its from a granada....lol...i picked mine up for $125 and everything moves and works fine...just got to rebuild it put some 3.55 gears and get leafs springs...you know...just fix it up a bit
     
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    My advice would be to stick with the 8" and rebuild it. The 9" is just too big and clunky for these cars. I have one in mine, and it was a mistake. Properly equipped, the 8" will handle any street application without any problems.

    Sam :)
     
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    Rear end swaps

    I have a 70 model maverick with a 170ci six. I also have what is left of a 1967 fairlane will the rearend out of this fairlane fit under my maverick. what else will change.:hmmm:
     
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    i believe the 67 fairlane will be too wide. i was just looking at one out of a 64 fairlane and it's going into a falcon. it will have to be cut down. is the rear end out of the fairlane an 8" or a 9"? what are the plans for the car? :)
     
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    What is this crazy rearend under my car it lookes like a chevy.
     
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    the 70 comes stock with a 7 1/2". and yeah it looks like a chevy. they are pretty light weight and won't stand up to much abuse. an 8" out of a later maverick should bolt in and can be made to stand up to 350-400 hp unless you are going to abuse it a lot the i'd suggest a 9". the 8" is the easiest swap since they came in most mavericks and are more plentiful.:)
     
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    Thanks, plans are for a pretty much stock 289 hipo that I already have. Ive had the engine for years and have been looking for the right thing to put it in. It has finally found a home and I am aboust to bust waiting to get it all together
     
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    You are a little 'all over the map' with your post here.
    8", 9", disc brakes, modern wheels...
    They all come from different directions and we have no specific info that is needed to give you a credible recommendation.

    Not flaming you, just needing more info.

    If your car is stock or VERY mild, an 8" will be a good base for you.
    However, if you make decent mods to your v8, then an 8" will need a very thoughtful and sturdy build-up.
    If you have anything more than stock stroke 302
    OR run slicks
    OR like to dump the clutch on your manual tranny
    OR have a power adder
    You should be running a 9" IMO.

    The stock rear in your 73 would probably have been an 8", but more info or a good description of what's there is needed.

    Disc brakes can be sourced many different ways.
    The Versillies 9" with discs is hard to find, very heavy, expensive, not well equipped from the factory (so it will need totally going through), and the brakes are expensive to service when needed.
    You are also paying alot for the 9" when you may not need it.
    Late Crown Vics and Exploders have rear discs that can be bolted on to large bearing 8" rears and small/Torino bearing 9" rears, depending.
    They are modern, light, cheap, and simple. Can't decide anything until you got the other stuff figured out though.

    If you want modern rims, you may need either spacers or a wider rear, depending on what rims you are thinking of as "modern".
    They are not all the same size.

    8" or 9" rears can be sourced from many cars, all bolt in, however the overall widths vary from stock width to 'super wide for a Maverick'...
    (the widest ones can be used with really deep backspacing rims used on late model cars like Mustangs, without use of spacers)

    65-73 Mustangs
    67-70 Cougar
    75-80 Granada/Monarch/Versillies
    57-59 Ford/Wagon/Ranchero

    To name the obvious ones.

    Now, what do you really want to accomplish?
    Dave
     
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    What is your 9" out of that you consider it "too big and clunky"?

    A basic 9" is only a few pounds heavier than an 8" of the same size.
    There are rim choices that could vary the weight more than the difference.

    It isn't until you are talking about N cases, 31 spline straight axles, big brakes, Lincolin style housings, back braces, etc... that the 9" starts getting heavy. Even then, an HD 9" is only going to weigh 20 to possibly 30 lbs more (on a bad day).

    What do you consider a "properly equipped 8 inch"?
    The price to build an 8" strong is as much or more than building a stronger 9", because of the proliferation of 9" parts vs sparse 8" parts of any strength.

    I will say from experience, that stock 8" rears are very weak, and to build an 8" only slightly stronger will get you a 9" for the same money.
    I have destroyed three 8" rears with only 306 cubes on radials.
    Weak.
     
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    8" rear will be PLENTY strong for 99% of us. As mentioned, if you've got a power adder (blower or nitrous) and/or slicks and/or a manual transmission that you like to dump the clutch at full power, then the 8" will break...for that matter so will a 9" once in a while. The 8" rear end is pretty strong for no more than it is. Weak point is the pinion and pinion support. We ran 8" rears in both dad's Fearmont and my Maverick on the drag strip for YEARS....some 1.40 60' times (auto transmission) on both cars, and only broke one. Only reason for upgrading was for better gear selection, that, and I backhalfed the maverick and went with bigger axles for peace of mind. But, there is the old saying....some people can break anything. Usually that's me but in this case I only had one 8" failure and it was a failed pinion gear. That was in about 10 years of beating on it. Also had the stock 8" under the turbo Maverick ('74...turbo 302) and I'm pretty sure it had enough power to classify as "enough" to break an 8"...and never once had any problems with it. It had 2.79, 3.00, and 3.55 gears (I changed them in hopes of better performance).

    Just remember....power and torque don't break rear ends & axles. Traction does. Dump the clutch with slicks, on a 3200 lb car that has 500 lb-ft of torque, and yeah..it'll break. But if you drive something like that, the 8" rear is the least of your problems.
     
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    guys, this is an old post. that has been added on to in reply #4. he has a 70 so it has the 7 1/2 inch rear in it. for his purpose the 8" would probably be the way to go imo. bolt right in. :)
     
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    Well, we certainly livened it up!
    It was only getting one post a year until now. :rofl2:
    J/K

    fgilmer:
    You are allowed to post your own threads if you have a question.

    I wasn't looking at the dates, and when I saw your post, I just figured you were out hi-jacking threads.

    If you are percieved as the thread starter, you get better responses than if you are the hi-jacker.
     

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