Duraspark Ignition

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  1. Max Power

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    Here is my set-up:

    1977 Maverick

    Stock 302 shortblock
    D0OE heads with 58.5 cc chambers (about 10:1)
    Comp Cams Xtreme Energy 256H
    Comp Cams Cam gear and chain set (Cam 4 deg. advanced)
    Stock C-4 with stock converter-stock 3.00 rearend
    Stock manifolds with custom dual exhaust and crossover
    Holley 600 cfm
    Weiand intake
    No emissions conneted.

    My question is this:

    When I installed the 4 bbl and manifold and removed the VV carb and related emissions, it ran a LOT better and got better mileage, but pinged excessively with the vacuum advance connected. Now that I am istalling the head/cam combo next month, what to do about ignition? I fear the curve and advance will be all wrong and may ping all the time, but I dont know what it is. I know there is mechanical advance in the distributor, but how much does the ignition control module effect this? Are there options? I don't want to go aftermarket, if possible, I would rather re-curve. Also, if there a performance version of the module?

    Thanks in advance...
     
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    Its all in the advance spring setup. There is an adjustable vacuum control also on the market. It take a lot of trial to achive the advance curve you want but is worth the time and education. You need a good timing light to see the results of the changes as well a road testing. I can't tell you of any easyer way.;)
     
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    I forgot to mention that the vacuum for the dist. needs to come from the ported source on the carb.
     
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    Thanks K. Merring. I know that vacuum advance must come from ported sources, they are easy to discern on a Holley. I think part of the problem is that Holley ported vacuum goes from zero to manifoild vacuum in the blip of the throttle. I fear it may be way to fast for the advance weights presenty employed, that's why I am pinging now.

    Do the adjustable vacuum advances work for duraspark factory distributors? I'm guessing they do.
     
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    The only difference between the dists are the pick up for the electronic module. The vacuum part works the same by pulling the plate around in both types. There is a lite and a heavy spring and tangs to bend to adjust the tension. I have info on doing this somewhere in the library. It has been 7 years since I last done it.
     
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    balancing act

    The vacuum line has to go to the side of the metering block on a Holley carb. Your timing should be between 6-12 initail and 36-40 total. Without the vacuum line attached. Just start with the lower setting and play with it to find what works on your combo.
     
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    I wouldnt use the vac advance...i curve my mechanical advance aln leave vacuum alone..I have found on a 302 38 degrees total is the best I have found others may have better spec.s for your cam/intake/exhaust combo
     
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    Your Maverick ignition

    I just read your posts from 2002. I have the same problem today. Can you tell me what you did to fix the advance curve problems? I am thinking of having my old distributor re-curved, or buy an aftermarket dist. Thanks.
     
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    on my 73' 302 and my 77' 250 6cyl. i just left the vac. hose off. no prob. so far (y) ...frank...
     
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    I'll try that today. Sounds like a good possible temporary fix. Cheap too!!
     
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    youll need a few distributors. take the advance piece off of the top and use the one with the greatest cut out, OR use a die grinder and lenghthen the one inside your distributor ( the cut out space )
     
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    I just ended up running without the vacuum advance. I think the curve is not optimum, but I have bigger things to worry about these days. I'll get to it when I am caught up with other car projects.
     

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