Compression Ratio Questions

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  1. 73Mav

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    I am rebuilding the 302 in my 1973 Maverick. Now I am to the point of choosing pistons. My heads have 60 cc combustion chambers. I know that in '73 the blocks went to a taller deck (8.229 vs. 8.206). My block is a D2 casting. Does anyone know if that means that I have the shorter deck, or did they keep the same casting size and mill less off to achieve the taller deck (and lower compression)? The reason I ask is I have narrowed down the pistons to 2 choices. One is somewhat dished and will give me a CR of 8.92:1 for the shorter deck but 8.46:1 for the taller deck. The second is a flat top with relief that will give a CR of 9.85 (which I have been told may be too high) with the shorter deck or 9.29:1 with the taller deck. I have been recommended to shoot for 9-9.5:1 to avoid detonation, but the shop machining my block told me that if I use a good 4 bbl carb and an adjustable distributor that CR's closer to 10:1 are still fine.

    Any ideas, recommendations, input?
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    I agree, you can get away with the 9.85:1 as long as you are careful. Remember, the single greatest way to produce power is to increase your CR, unless of course you are using a super charger or turbo!
     
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    Your machine shop should be able to measure the deck height for you.

    Check the attached link for an informative article on the subject of compression ratios and related matters. I know it says Pontiac at the top of the page but the principals apply to all internal combustion engines. I found this by doing a search on Google for Comp Cams 268

    http://www.boyleworks.com/ta400/psp/compression.html
     
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    Flat top pistons and deck the block to near zero deck height or get an earlier block to use the flat top pistons in.
     
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    Mill the block.020" down to the earlier specs. Comp of 9.5-10.0 is possible with the right cam and ignition. Good quality gas makes a difference to.
    You must also maintain the correct piston to head clearence. That includes the piston at TDC, below the deck and gasket thickness. Not a problem with milling the block.
     
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    the easiest way to tell the exact year of the block is to really read the codes. There are 2 main ones on the block, one is the part number (like D2OE-6025-aa), and the other is a casting code, the exact date that it was cast, usually like a "4C15" or something like that. The first number is the last digit of the year it was cast, the letter is the month, and the last 2 are for the actual day. For instance, 4C15 means it was cast 4=1974, c=3rd month, march, and the 15th day. March 15, 1974 in this example. The "taller" blocks were made from 1973-1976. They can be used, but you'll most likely have to do some milling.
     
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    You won't really know actual compression ratio until take into account the piston depth at TDC, head gasket thickness, cylinder head cc's, as well as the dome/dish on the piston.

    The pistons advertise a certain CR, but there are so many variables be sure to check it out yourself to be sure.

    I measured my clearances on my 1987 factory piston'd 5.0L. The heads and block have both been decked, and I've run a CR of 10.03:1 for a few years now. No detonation problems, but always 93 octane.
     
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    You can run 10:1 without problems, if you have a cam with some overlap or aluminum heads. Usually you gain about 4% horsepower with every point of compression, so that extra half point may not be worth it.

    Ignition curve, cam, haeds, a number of things determine whether or not you will ping.

    Also keep in mind that if you mill heads and decks, you will need adjustable rockers.
     

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