302 wont turn over after rebuild.

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  1. Bigj47933

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    I recently rebuilt my 302 with new piston rings and new bearings. My question is that after i torque down the rod bolts the engine will not turn over at all. Even with the heads off. I have checked to make sure all the pistons and in the correct orientation and that the caps are on correctly. If you have any ideas please help me out. I have never had this many problems with one engine before. If i cant figure it out im ready to just buy a late model motor and go efi.
    Thanks John
     
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    John, Do you mean you can't rotate the motor by hand?
     
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    Something is binding. I would go to each bearing journal, and loosen them up, to find which one(s) are binding.
     
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    ok i tried that and it looks like its cylinder 7 that is locking it up but all the others make it extremely hard to turn I put a torque wrench on the crank bolt and it took 145 ft lbs to turn it before number 7 and after that I couldn't get it to budge.
     
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    and yea I meant by hand.
     
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    Do you have the rods positioned correctly, with the chamfers towards the crank journals?
     
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    Im not sure ill have to check tomorrow I'm fed up with it tonight and I'm afraid if I keep messing with it I'm gonna mess something up because i don't have the patience for it lol.
    But i will check that tomorrow morning and see. Thanks
     
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    Dude! Take a break! It will still be messed up tomorrow, and your head will be more level.

    It is probably something minor, and you will figure it out when you chill out!
     
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    My thoughts exactly lol.
    I'll figure it out in the morning, I know its prob. something that I'm just overlooking. I do have to say thank you to everyone on here. Advice like this is why I joined this site. Thanks again.
     
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    Wrong size bearings for the crank grind? Did you plastigauge them? I learned 40 years ago to never trust the crank grind or the size marked on the box and have used plastiguage to check them on every build. More than once I have found a mismatched bearing.

    :huh:

    Without the heads on you should be able to rotate the short block by hand
     
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    I second the wrong bearings/crank grind
     
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    My first thought is wrong bearings also. Doesn't take much to bind it up.:)
     
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    Make sure you put the thrust bearing on number 3 not the rear like a Chevrolet... Seen this done a few times..
     
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    No the main bearings are fine the crank turns just fine with the caps torqued down. Just the rods are holding it up.
     
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    did you plasti gauge the rod bearings?
     

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