which fluid can I use?

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  1. revatoons

    revatoons Member

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    1974 Ford maverick 250ci 4.1L (six inline), Hi my car have c4 automatc transmission and have a power steering, Here in my country nobody sell ATF Type F fluid, only sell Dexron II and Dexron III, which Fluids Type can I use for my tranmission and steering?
     
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    Type F only or you will mess it up
     
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    "Here in my country nobody sell ATF Type F fluid."
    he should find out what was put in to start with...:yup:

    my transmission guy suggested...Dextron III...for my C-4.
     
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    PaulS Member extrordiare

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    They recommend the "universal" fluid that they stock. dexronIII is not a good flui for the C4. You can get a type F fluid through trick-shift or Slick 50. Thet are more expensive than run of the mill type F but at least they are compatible with type F.
     
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    point is if..."Here in my country nobody sell ATF Type F fluid."

    :hmmm:...is this the only...C-4...in the country?...
     
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    M.A.V. Yep,my real initials.

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    And now you have a 700R4.....:rofl2::p
     
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    I've heard of guys putting 20w motor oil in their C4's.
     
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    thing is though, my car has had something other then type F in the transmission for 15 years or so and its daily driver and still shifts and works great...i dont think ive even seen type F fluid around here.
     
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    you can order type F from Oreilley auto parts online, and have it shipped to you, quarts individually, or by the case. Valvoline type F is pretty common, seeing as how the power steering on my 94' TOWN CAR uses type f, yet the trans is dex/merc? ford... hmph

    but we ALLWAYS have some on hand at the shop, too many guys rolling around in old fords that need type-f in the southern louisville area, quite a few leaky ones at that, that take full advantage of the free top offs :) (with oil change until next is due of course)
     
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    Auto zone carries it. Not sure but WalMart used to carry their own brand.

    You may have to get it from ebay down in Venezuela and pay shipping.:mad:

    What about all the Mavericks in Brazil??
     
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    I bought Advance Auto brand Type F recently.
     
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    Oreilley has their own brad type f, as well as autozone, and wal-mart in louisville, can also get from Napa, and Tractor Supply Company... best bet for overseas shipping though would be online through an american auto parts manufacturer, and fortunately, does not have to ship as a haz-mat, being that it's flash point is well over tolerances, though above 160F (70C) the zinc does give off fumes that can damage your lungs and such, (and will smell particularly bad, like gear oil)

    It has no restrictions accodring to it's MSDS for shipping, so i would definately look into auto-suppliers here in the US to see if they ship to you. If not, Valvoline does have a branch in south america (ashland oil INC) and you possibly could obtain it through them... we've had customers order it by the case here no problem.

    Type f is also used in some farm equipment and industrial machines as a hydraulic fluid.

    Here's a quick link to the FORD type f MSDS sheet if anyone is particularly interested.

    http://www.fcsdchemicalsandlubricants.com/Main/msds/us148095us.pdf

    and valvoline brand type F (requires adobe reader)

    http://msds.ashland.com/msds-ext/msdsDownload.do?method=getMsdsDocKeys&hc=materialSearchHC&id=6
     
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    Slick 50 and Amsoil both sell a type F compatible fluid.
    Ford no longer recommends gexron III/ Mercon for any of their transmissions - those that were using DexronIII/Mercon are supposed to use Mercon V now.
     
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    Yesterday I visited the www.mustagmontlhy.com site and I did read the following...

    In the old days, Ford specified the use of Type F automatic transmission for seal, clutch, and band compatibility in its transmissions. These days, Type F (ESW-M2C33-F) isn't mandatory because Ford stopped specifying its use in 1977 with the advent of more advanced friction materials. As older Ford transmissions have been rebuilt and had clutches and bands replaced, the use of Type F has been less of a concern though it remains desirable. Think of Type F as a stickier fluid, with friction modifiers that provide firm clutch and band engagement, which also means longer service life.

    It is generally suggested you use Mercon V synthetic transmission fluid if Type F cannot be found. Mercon V is compatible with all kinds of automatic transmission fluid types according to sources we've consulted. Your transmission fluid's job, aside from the obvious for hydraulic control system function, is to cool and lubricate as it travels throughout your transmission. A C4's moving parts generate a tremendous amount of heat, which is why clean fluid and abundant cooling capacity are so important.

     

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