still unclear on some modifications

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  1. csmullin

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    Hey guys!

    Sorry for asking probably some really dumb questions, but I haven't found really definitive answers that I can be confident about.

    I've finally got time off work and school to try and complete as much of my restoration as possible, so I'm trying to plan what to do.

    I am going to swap out my I6 for a v8, and that is pretty straight forward. But can I use my 200ci C-4 as long as I use the proper bellhousing and use a rebuild kit? I have heard I may need to use another C4 tranny from a v8 or 250ci on some of my searches but I'm not too sure.

    Next, I want to have a 5 lug front end, I'm switching the rear with a 8" 5 lug and would like to throw some cragars on there. Do I have to install new axles? Or what? I can't find front end swap tutorials (besides using a 4-5lug adapter thing), only rear end. Is it the same?

    I think those are the 2 big questions. Also, will my 200ci radiator be enough?
     
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    I have a 8" 5 lug rear end. I'm asking about the front end.
     
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    you can use the 6 cylinder c4. it should be rebuilt to v8 specs and the conveter changed to one to match the v8.
    you need to change the front drums to 5 lug drums or upgrade to disk brakes. im not sure there are 5 lug drums the same size as the 4 lug drums but with the v8 upgrade you really should swtich out to disk brakes. there are several ways to switch to disks. you can find a stock donner parts. you would need the spindles, calipers, rotors, bearings etc. and brake hoses. maybe different tie rod ends. or you can go with an aftermarket kit from willwood, ssbc, or many other companys that make conversion kits
     
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    I read it too fast.

    Just a new brakes, bearings and fluid swap should be fine when installing a rear axle, the stock axle's should hold up fine.

    Most guys install front discs when doing the 4-to 5 lug swap.
    Kills two birds with one stone(y)
     
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    Yeah I was going to upgrade to front disc while swapping the rear and possible rear disc, depending on the cost of those, haven't researched the rears too much. So, if I buy the 5 lug drum to disc brake conversion kits, I should be fine? No need for axles?

    Also, since I need a new bellhousing and converter, I was considering buying a 302 C4 with the bellhousing and a 3000 stall converter from a local. Because for $325, I really couldn't upgrade the I6 as well. Will 3000 stall be too much? It's going to be a low 300hp v8, for a little track, city, and highway usage. Not a daily driver.

    Thanks for really clearing this up for me.
     
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    It's going to be the complete kit from SummitRacing. drum to disc with all the calipers, spindles, master cylinder, etc.
    http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-BK1217/
    Will that be good? or do I have to get the actual Mercury/Fairline/Mustang discs? These are just $150-200 cheaper. Was going to talk with the Summit guys, but I figure you can help me out now I guess.
     
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    rear drum to disk:

    you don't need new axles, they are not involved with the brakes.

    the 8" drum to disk kits will work, or a cheaper method is this:

    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] ...8" rear disc. install


    Front:

    the kit you posted is to a mustang II, that will not work on your maverick.

    this kit will tough.

    http://discbrakeswap.com/

    or you can go this route:

    [​IMG] [​IMG] Front Disc Brakes Swap

    there's also a ton on info on other things here:

    [​IMG] Tech Articles
     
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    A 3000 rpm stall converter is WAY too much for what you want to do. Look for something in the 1500-2000 if you want a stall converter.
     
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    if you decide to go drums up front, i have everything you need. new brake shoes,new hardware, turned drums,new bearings, new seals. was going to stay original, rebuilt the hole thing. then changed my mind,change over to power steering and front disc brakes.
     
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    It will cost more to "upgrade" the 200" C4 to V-8 specs than to get the one you are looking at. The 3000 stall converter probably won't actually stall at that rpm with your engine so use it. It will be fine. The radiator from the 200 has different size hoses so you will need the v-8 radiator, fan shroud and the fan.
    The five lug area has been covered well so I think you have all your answers.
     
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    Yeah. Looks like I was looking in mostly the right direction. Just needed that extra clarification. Thanks for all your help guys!
     

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