Torque to Yeild Bolts

Discussion in 'Technical' started by Joebug, Jun 19, 2010.

  1. Joebug

    Joebug Dude with a Maverick

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2009
    Messages:
    140
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Hudson Valley,New York
    Vehicle:
    1971 Maverick V8 2dr coupe
    What are the torque specs if I use these bolts? do I torque to factory specs?
     
  2. Dave B

    Dave B I like Mavericks!

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2002
    Messages:
    16,931
    Likes Received:
    215
    Trophy Points:
    347
    Location:
    Parts Unknown......
    Vehicle:
    3 Grabbers
  3. Joebug

    Joebug Dude with a Maverick

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2009
    Messages:
    140
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Hudson Valley,New York
    Vehicle:
    1971 Maverick V8 2dr coupe
    Hey Great Nice reading... I guess my next question is... Anyone know what the torque specs and procedures are when using the torque to yield bolts on a 302? thanks
     
  4. olerodder

    olerodder Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2009
    Messages:
    2,983
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    102
    Location:
    NorCal
    Vehicle:
    1970 Maverick
    Just a question, why are you using Torque to Yield bolts and not studs or regular head bolts?

    I have only used torque to yield bolts once on a 4.3l Chevy V6.
    What you do is to torque them to a specific torque with a real torque wrench.............like 35/45ft lbs, then put on this torque to yield adapter on you 1/2" drive and rotate the pointer on this thing for x number of degrees...................like 75 degrees more or 120 degrees more.
    The initial torque setting is just to snug the head down against the head gasket, then you go from there with the degrees thing.
    An if you want to change the heads or take them off..................you need to purchase new bolts because they are only used once.
    You would have to consult a motor manual to find out what the initial torque was and then the number of degrees you would go after that.
    If it were me, I'd just go with regular head bolts................IMHO
     
    Last edited: Oct 30, 2010
  5. Joebug

    Joebug Dude with a Maverick

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2009
    Messages:
    140
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Hudson Valley,New York
    Vehicle:
    1971 Maverick V8 2dr coupe
    yeah I think you're right>> i should just go with regular head bolts...one of the tech guys at ford racing said to go with them ...not sure why, i guess i will call him on monday,
     
  6. starsky74

    starsky74 Technician

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2007
    Messages:
    904
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    107
    Location:
    Hackberry Louisiana
    Vehicle:
    73 four door, 74 starsky&hutch mav, a 93SHO, an 03 gt, and a 94 gt
    1. Flanged Hex Head Bolt (new bolts required)
      1. Tighten all bolts in sequence to 34-47 Nm (25-35 Lb-Ft).
      2. Tighten all bolts in sequence to 61-75 Nm (45-55 Lb-Ft).
      3. Tighten all bolts in sequence an additional 1/4 turn (85-95 degrees) .
    ford used them in 5.0's 93 and up. its a pain to replace them but for a
    stock design they perform quite well. especially as a rod bolt.
     
  7. Joebug

    Joebug Dude with a Maverick

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2009
    Messages:
    140
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Hudson Valley,New York
    Vehicle:
    1971 Maverick V8 2dr coupe
    I called ford racing just to be sure about the specs and Starsky74 is right on with that...
    they also indicated that the torque to yield bolts have a greater clamping force than traditional head bolts or studs... I will give them a try and see what happens...
     
  8. PaulS

    PaulS Member extrordiare

    Joined:
    May 3, 2004
    Messages:
    4,858
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Seattle area
    Vehicle:
    1966 Mustang, 1972, 73, 73 and 73 Mavericks
    The reason that torque to yield bolts have more clamping force is that they are torqued to the point that they actually on the verge of failure. You could do the same thing with any bolt - as long as you replace them instead of reusing them.
    A method called torque and turn is often used when replacement is not required but offers the advantages of torque to yield bolts. The bolts are torqued to a low value to set them and then turned a number of degrees to offer a clamping force that is the same for each bolt. It is unaffected by torque changes due to the thread conditions or the lubricant used or even the contaminants that may be on the threads.
     
  9. starsky74

    starsky74 Technician

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2007
    Messages:
    904
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    107
    Location:
    Hackberry Louisiana
    Vehicle:
    73 four door, 74 starsky&hutch mav, a 93SHO, an 03 gt, and a 94 gt
    Just because a bolt calls for torque plus angle doesn't mean its torque to yeild, torque plus angle gets tighter, torque to yeild is torqued to whatever spec and the angle stretches the bolt to the point of its elasticity but doesn't get any tighter than the last ft lb it was torqued to.
     
  10. Joebug

    Joebug Dude with a Maverick

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2009
    Messages:
    140
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Hudson Valley,New York
    Vehicle:
    1971 Maverick V8 2dr coupe
    these bolts suck!!!! I torqued them down first to 35 then 55 then I realized I didnt have a degree thing for my ratchet so I decided to just use the clock method, from 3 oclock position to 6 oclock position... not happening, either I'm not strong enough to turn it past 4 oclock or I need a longer ratchet.... either way they are coming out and going with standard head bolts... what a hassle and set back over some stupid bolts... I could have been done already!!! Stay away from these bolts...they really are a PITA!!!
    I should have listened to "olerodder"
     
  11. olerodder

    olerodder Member

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2009
    Messages:
    2,983
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    102
    Location:
    NorCal
    Vehicle:
    1970 Maverick

Share This Page