New to the fors performance world please help!!

Ok so ive talked to a couple of you and got some good ideas of where to go with this project but now i need more technical info. i just sent the motor off to get rebuilt and bored .030 over for the stroker kit next year but i need to know where to go from there. it's a 302 out of a '72 grabber that is going into a '77. this car is ment more for the track than the steet and is being built that way. already have someone doing the subframe connectors. now my question is for the most horse powere what do i need to do as far as supporting mods. i already have a set of long tubes ready to bolt on. need to know more about heads, carb, intake, and i will most likely put in a monster of a cam. please help.

 

what exactly are your goals for your car?

 

goals make it as fast as humanly possible without blasting into the hemisphere or cutting the shock towers.

 

You really should wait on the machine work until you have the stroker kit and pistons in hand. You cannot properly bore an engine without the pistons on hand.

 

well the kit i am most likely getting requires a .030 bore but but the other kit i was looking at requires a .040 bore so i figured a .030 bore would be ok for now.

 

your already doing something wrong. the block your starting with is not stong enough for your goals. it will be good for around 450 to 550 hp. you will want to get a aftermarket block. check out dart's 363 stroker short block. http://www.dartheads.com/products/s...blocks/shp-small-block-ford-short-blocks.html
get dished pistons. then you will want some really good cylinder heads. you will then want to get a supercharger or turbo. i would sugest a cyntrifical supercharger. you should easly be able to have a 700 to 800 motor with those components and alot more select pices to complete it.
rember you will have to build the whole car to work with a motor like that. every thing must be upgraded to work with that power, brakes, suspension, trans, driveshaft, rear end, and the body of the car it self.

 

The question again is what are you going to do with it??? You will never be the fastest car at the track. If you are going to race it you need to have some goals to attain. What class are you going to run? What sanctioning body? I'd pick a class to race in and read the rules and see what you can do, and then go from there. If you just want to go to the run what you brung races, you'll need more than what a stock block will give you. Listen to what Bryant said. It is good info. You'll also need a tranny to handle that power and a rear end to get it to the ground. Stock stuff will not get it.

 

You're missing my point. Any good machinist will tell you he needs the pistons to fit the bores to the pistons. Simply boring it .030 and expecting the pistons you buy next year are going to fit correctly is wishful thinking.

 

well the problem with that is the machinist isnt going to be the one that strokes it. i have an engine builder that i am friends with that is going be helping me assemble it for free. the problem is he knows how to build a really good hemi not a ford. assembling a motor is the same principles from manufacturer to manufacturer but the other stuff is all different and thats what i need help with. the right heads, intake, carb can make a huge difference from maker to maker thats whay like the edelbrock top end kit makes more power on the chevy's and chryslers than the ford. so what im looking for is a really good setup from the block up. maybe even some suggestions on a big high horsepower cam. i want to get as much out of this motor as possible without stepping into a different block.

 

Okay,,,, So your looking at 500hp?

Are you going to stock cube rebuild engine now on the .030 bore or you getting the bore now and not using block till next year when you build your stroker kit?

Along with the sub-frame connectors, do you plan on putting a cage in car?

 

already have the rear end picked out its coming from a friend of mines pro street car ford 9". i have the rear springs and caltracs on the parts list. im having to buy 2 different brake setups so that kinda sucks but well worth it. using the spindles from 1 and the calipiers, rotors, and pads from another with a power brake conversion planned. also found a vendor that sells a complete front end suspension kit for the maverick so i can keep it stock but sturdy. really dont want to do a mustang II suspension untill i have to and besides i would like to keep this thing legal for the streets. subframe connectors or on the parts list and i have a friend of mine who is working on figureing out a way to hide the front cab part odf a roll cage so i still have the protection without all the ugly looks. may not be nhra certified but will at least help if i wreck it at the track. oh and have a parts list for $2500 for the new trans thats going in it. but just a simple rebuild for now.

 

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Not sure if you have seen this tranny,,, may want to go this route. Lifetime guarantee, free freshen up... I like mine.

Sorta lost on your cage idea,,, if your planning on world stomping power,,, better have a legal cage or a outlaw track.

Still sorta lost on what hp or times you wanna run

 

yes stock cube for now later on down the road maybe more just depends on what the next project is after i finish the main part of this one. a cage is a possibility but would like to not have to if i keep from it. if i can get it into the 10's i will have to cage it but there are some tracks around here that would be very easy to run a uncaged car at that the reason i am looking to find a way to conceal it if possible.

 

well ty but im not sure if you say that because i know there is a difference or if your being facetious.