i just came upon an 8" that was a factory mav rear. the guy had narrowed to 55 1/2".(it's just the housing) he ended up buying a complete currie 9" and bolted in. so i got the 8". my question, is there enough spline on my stock 28 spline axels to remove 1/2" from each one and run without resplining? thanks jack
You could buy a set of custom length axles from Moser for a lil over $300.oo that would be ALOT stronger than a cut down stocker.
its just for the street and was hoping i could make the stockers work. i have n/50s on and to get them in another 1/2" would be nice. if i have to go after market i'll just wait and do a 9". i need a 25 and 29". anyone know of a list of axel lengths for other cars w/28 spline. maybe i can find ones that will work. thanks for info and help jack
in my experience moser is not stronger than a stock axle. moser spends too much on advertising and not enough on the axle building process. for the same price you can get currie, strange or mark williams axles. all of wich are beter than moser.
HMM, could you further explain why and under what circumstance's, Moser axle's are not as strong as stock. The Maverick 28 spline axle's, are as tough as they come, for the 8in. I would think that Moser is using higher grade steel, rather than the same stuff they used almost 40yr's ago. A lot of axle failure is attributed to the way the vehicle is driven and it's HP. Std. transmission's really put the "bang" into initial launch, compared to an automatic. Since we run Moser's in all our race cars( 31/33/and 35 spline, would like to get some failure data, so we can compare to other's, as far as safety issue's go. We have run these for many year's and never had a problem, just wondering now, if we should change them. Are the new one's made in China? Please give me some accurate data on them. Thank's
Hmmm, I gotta say that's absolutely the first negative statement I've ever heard on Moser axles! :16suspect FWIW... Care to elaborate? Russ
Hmmm, and that is coming from a gear and axle guy, he must have some inside information. With my experience with structual steel, I have noticed that in the past 8 years a lot of our steel is imported from south africa. Many micro imperfections caused by contaminants during the forging and cooling process are found. We have to send it back, not good under pressure. hairline cracks is just a no no. Steel suppliers are turning to cheap steel to make a higher profit.
As I posted in another thread,been a Moser dealer for almost 20 years and have had no problems,and still don't,have sold 100s of Mosers and own a rearend shop,don't worry,they are still GREAT axles,would not run anything else....Jack
I guess he still doesnt have a comment. Just for what it's worth. I ordered axles for the foxbody I had. I had picked Moser over Strange. Not that they are better, but if Strange was "better than Moser" i would have went with them
Just got back to this thread. i have no techincal data like what material they are made from. what i do have is several customers that have twisted the spines on mosers. now for stock and very mild applications they are fine, but so are stock axles. a specific example is a customers mustang. its a fox body mustang that runs in psca. at the time it was running in the 8.2 range. i recongize that this is alot more power than most of us have. we orignaly built a 9" for the car and used "toms" 35 spline axles. the car ran a season and a 1/2 on them. the owner then had his chassie shop narrow the diff just a few inches and the chassie shop put moser axles back in to the diff. at the next race he put 5 passes on the car befor he was out of the compition. he brought the car back to us for a ratio change and when i pulled the axles out (with only 5 passes) they both were twisted at the splines. so tell me how many more passes he would have on them till one snaped and put him into the wall? ive have 3 more moser axle at my shop that have twisted splines that we show people who ask for them. now they are all out of cars that use transbrakes and make good power and i understand that not every body goes to this level of power but for the same price you spend on moser axles you can have strange axles or even mark williams axles that i have never seen failure in. in looking at what the difference is in the axles are, it looks to me that moser makes the axle blanks then has them hardened then puts them on the shelf till they machine them to order. this cuts the splines throught the hardened surface and into the soft part of the axle. so the splines are in soft non hardened material. moser can get axles to you quicker than the rest of the manifactures because they dont take the extra time to harden there splines. im only offering my experience so people can make there own decisions. i know what i have seen and i will never sell a moser axle for any appliction. i feel that the spend too much on advertising and not enough on manifacturing, kinda like fram filters.
While i agree with you on the Fram filter thing, I disagree on the Moser thing. Sorry you've had bad luck with them, but I've never heard a bad thing about them before. Mavman and Old guy sold me on them when I know what power they make and havent had a problem. Thats why I bought moser. Anyone else with bad stories of moser, strange, etc?
I guess my question on this whole moser debate in comparison to strange or the other types of axles. Is how many people are running mosers? (If you look at it this way it makes a feasable argument even for the failure rate you have seen) Lets go with the law of numbers, first lets look at strange, they make a good axle but when I take my jeep down to moab there are two axles primarily run, currie and moser. Now when I go talk to my street rodding buddies unless they bought a currie or something else like that they got a moser axle(that is unless it is jerry and he still runs the stock axleshafts and that is just cus I cant talk him into pulling his axle apart). So based upon the numbers you can say that in all probablility that there is a failure per say 1 in every 500 axles for any and all companies(just a number I made up). Well with the given probablity that there are say 25-35% more moser axles on the street then any other brand (if not several of the other brands put together) then you are going to see 25-35% higher failure rate in moser axles then other companies products. Oh and in response to the micro cracks that might be in the steel. If you look at their website they state that their axles are magnetic particle inspected or more commonly known as "Magnafluxed" this process detects anomolies (cracks) created by heat treat. As for the material, it does not matter where the materials came from, out of every batch of steel they run they sample it. Usually that involves taking a slug out of the batch and analysing the components in it. The components need to meet a specific range, you know 1-2% zinc 2-4% carbon whatever it is all based on the mix they require. Now you can send me alot of flack or whatever but you know what I have seen more people destroy axles due to a dumped clutch then an actual material failure. Before you start pointing fingers at the axle company try looking at the driver, I hate to say it I have seen many veteran drivers eat a u-joint or bust a c-clip because they spun their tires a little too much on the slick rock.
