Rookie pulling a 302

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  1. gdemopesq

    gdemopesq MOTOR CITY MAV

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    I am good with motorcycles but not sure if I am getting in over my head here. But I am going to try. This is my game plan and a little car history. I bought a 1972 Maverick with a 302. Motor runs good. It has 58000 miles. Looks like the gaskets are oozing oil etc... It has A/C and power steering. I want to replace all gaskets, clean the motor, put a little chrome on it, put headers (dual exhaust), 4 barrell carb, change plugs, wires and distributor cap. I think the motor is pretty solid and does not need to be rebuilt. These are my questions/concerns:
    1) Should I do anything other than the above while the engine is out? (I will clean the compartment and paint it).
    2) When I pull it can I keep the a/c, alternator, fan blade, etc on?
    3) What needs to be taken off to remove the motor? Like what bolts, mounts etc.....
    4) I got to believe the radiator has to come out
    5) Can I keep the fan blade on?

    This is what I think I should do (so please tell me where I am wrong, as I know I am forgetting somethings). I would start by removing radiator, drain oil and filter, un-bolt exhaust manifold (one side), disconnect throttle cable from carb, remove and label all wires going to motor (starter, alternator, etc...) and label them, disconnect all hoses and label them, remove bolts from motor mounts (I am assuming bolt haeds are under the car as I cant see them in the engine compartment), unbolt from the transmission. I would then assume at this point I can attach some chains and pull it. So please tell me where I am wrong. I know I got to be wrong somewhere.
    A friend told me to pull it out with the transmission. He says it is too hard to line up if you don't. I don't think that is a good idea. I would rather pull the motor out without a transmission.
    I would hate to forget something and pull the engine up and rip out wires or sensors. I guess just take it slow on the pull.
    Thanks so much. You folks have been great.
     
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    1. im sure while its out youll see plenty of things you want to do

    2. you can keep all that on but make sure the connections are un-done, wires, hoses, etc

    3.un-do th exhaust. un-do th connections mentiond in 2 plus the fule line and throttle linkage. there are 2 motor mounts, one on each side. i'd recomend taking the radiator out after undoing the hoses and tranny cooler lines. theres also the trans mount and shifter linkage

    4. it probably doesnt NEED to but there really isnt a good excuse not too

    5. if the rad is out you can probably get away with leaving it on.

    im sure there are probably a few things i missed but i know the others will chime in

    good luck
     
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    It's easy enough to pull the radiator, and you'll be upset if you stab a hole in it with your crank pulley or something... Plus you're gonna want a little room to rock the engine around. You're already taking out a whole engine, the little stuff is nothing compared to that and it will make the job easier when there's less in the way.

    Good luck with it! If it's any encouragement, I recall making a much bigger deal in my mind out of my first engine pull than what it actually turned out to be.

    ...Then again it wasn't a Maverick...
     
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    i take the radiator and hoses off first. i take the fan off, gives me more room. also pull the spark plugs and undo the header bolts. or exhaust manifold bollts. i find the less on the engine the easier it is to pull. drain oil, undo the bolts holding the engine mounts to the frame mounts. i do not remove the motor mounts from the block. throttle linkage. i also pull the carb and install an engine removal plat in it's place. another hint: you might want to take a few pics to help you remember what bolts and mounts go where. such as alternator, power steering, :)and a/c brackets. also are you pulling the tranny too. i have a c-4 and usually pull it out as one. if so remove the driveshaft and linkage and drain the tranny also. remove the cooler lines and the tranny mount. if i've forgotten anything else i'm sure someone else will jump in.
     
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    ..."at all times be safe"...
    you will be ...under the car... as much as ...under the hood...
    you will more than likely have to leave the exhaust mans. on.(rusty bolts)
    the tailpipe connection to the manifold will be ruff also... if you think you want to remove them...soak them with..PB Blaster.two days min.
    as most have suggested...the more you take off the better it will be.
    ...by all means use a ...MOTOR PLATE...:yup:
    buy or borrow a GOOD motor stand.i bought one from H.F. and it is going with the motor i pulled..
    take your time and enjoy the trip...it's not a race.
    also take plenty of pics. a friend of mine used his camcorder pulling a head...talked his way through it...(this vac. hose goes here, this red with black stripe wire goes here etc.etc.)
    he said when he went to put it back he didn't need to use it at all. he said talking to himself while removing it helped him remember where everything went.
    this sounds like a lot but once you do it then you will see how much fun it really is. :rolleyes:

    ...:party3:...
     
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    After reading this thread, I want to go pull my motor. I have the tranny out so why not?
    Ahhh, bad idea. it doesn't need to come out
    Never mind
     
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    Torque converter needs unbolted Ford has 4 nuts accessed from engine side of flex plate (flywheel) If it's tight, take starter out an remove nuts from there. You'll have to turn crank 4 times to get all your nutz!
     
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    Some things I learned over the years working on Mavs...

    Pull the engine and tranny together.
    It is much easier than worring about it in the car.
    Make sure to put a plug in the back of the tranny though.
    The engine must come out with a nose-up attitude, and if unplugged, the tranny will run oil out the tailshaft profusely.

    Don't bother taking the hood off.
    Leave the prop rod down, use an old broom stick or piece of wood. Shove it down onto the frame rail, behind one of the towers, and prop the hood up with it as high as it will go. That is plenty high to get engine/tranny out.

    Take out the radiator AND fan. Piece of cake.

    When the engine comes up and out, again, nose up, you just need it high enough to clear the oil pan over the rad support. After that, carefully pull the engine over the rad support and have a second set of hands lift up the tranny tail shaft. Just enough to help it over the rad support. It isn't heavy or anything, you are just shifting the weight. It all just takes 2 people, 3 is even better if you have them, and must be done slowly (on level ground) to be safe.
    If you have an engine leveling rig for your picker, that's great too.
    Just have to be able to mount pretty low to the engine.

    Good luck, and work safe..
    Dave
     
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    Take your time and be safe. This is what it will look like when you have it out. Good Luck. When you put it back in use a leveler it makes it easier.
     
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    Nice Thread, special instructions for a 250? Can the tranny and motor come out in 1 peice? I've thought about doing this to work on my 250,
     
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    it'll be just about the same process for an I6, probably easier too since its smaller and there will be more room to work undr th hood
     

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