im working on a plan to go from a 250 i6 with manual trans to a 302.. the trans i got and clutch setup linkage wise is out of a 77 granada.. i would like to know if the z bar from a granada is the same as a maverick.. i can get a v8 granada z bar cheap.. (witch is funny cause there has to be fewer stick granadas then mavs).. anyone got the info for me or a pic of a mav z bar?
That Granada top loader is a 3 speed OD, (3 plus - one over drive). Probably work well for you if you are looking for a mileage champ. Not sure about the Z bar working "as is". In all of my years of junkyarding I have only found one Granada with a manual transmission. It was in the dollar yard in Sparks, Nevada. I am pretty sure that the manual transmissions for that car was not emissions friendly in California.
yeah, the od will be a plus, im not planing to build anything that will get rubber in all 4 gears.. i have heard that this 3sp/od is the same basic case as the old top loaders.. also will i be able to use the clutch and pressure plate and all that jazz on the 302? or will that cause balance problems? thanks
The trans will bolt right in, the Z bar will not. It is not too hard to modify your 6 cyl z bar to work. I did mine and ran it for many years before I redid my car.
Get apic of that granada z-bar. I had one on a comet that worked and it supposedly came of a granada. I still have it so we can compare. The 3 od`s are fine I had one in my last driver and it went 14`s pretty easy and never broke. No not as good as a toplaoder but fine in a driver
i know this tranny held up well in the granada and moved it great, i just need the inturnals to be strong enough for a little play.. i think i'll slap some bearings in it before i put it in.. i just worry about a balance issue.. when you go from a 6 to an 8 will the balance be right? i just want to be able to do as little trial and error as possable..... thanks guys so far.. heres a pic of the granada z bar for a 302 car
Balance is all in the flywheel, so as long as you run a 302 flywheel with the correct imbalance for your motor, you'll be fine. If your building the motor, have your machine shop balance the rotating assembly. Best $100 you'll ever spend.
i think the rebuild will come later, right now im lucky if i have the moneys to piece something togther out of all the stuff i have here for the moment... i do have a flywheel that is said to be for a v8 maybe i will get that reserfaced and use it...
I know what you mean, as long as its a 28 oz. flywheel for a 28 oz engine, or 50 for 50, you'll be fine. I just like my machine shop to do better than factory balance tolerances. If you're tight on cash, a resurface will be just the ticket. Make sure you check the input shaft for a good fit on the pilot bushing in the crank. Both can wear over time
cool, thanks.. the trans came out of a car that had 60k on it, supost to have been rebuilt but i dont beleave that.. if anyone else know of other things to watch out for pleast let me know..
Don't forget to install the starter plate. The sheetmetal piece shaped like your bellhousing. Been there, done that. Don't want to go there again. Doh!
Yea the manual and auto block plates are different. The manual is solid, the Auto one has the removeable plate at the bottom to access the torque converter nuts and drain plug. The two bolt holes at the bottom are different for each. So in using the auto plate with a manual bellhousing, you can't bolt the the removeable plate back in place. You'd have to run it with the flywheel and inside of the bell open to debris and what-not.
