problem starting car

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  1. duster70

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    yeah it sounds easy. Ill do it myself then. I dont have alot of money left so yea its better if i do it myself. Hey! it said on the intructions that I need to check if the solenoid is good. How do I know if it is or not? In case I have to buy one, how much does one cost? ok lets say I put the starter in, and the solenoid in. and I check all the fuel lines and stuff and I replace the fuel filter and stuff. What if it still wont start? where do I go next? Oh yeah, when the car used to turn on for a while and then off, the fuel line that goes from the carb to the fuel pump was leaking gas out. The fuel line is made of metal. I remember I loosened the lug where the fuel line connects onto the fuel pump to see if it was clogged. that is when it started to leak. Do I need a new fuel pump?:tiphat:
     
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    When you turn the key, if you hear a "click", your starter solenoid should be fine. Like I said, those instructions are just precautionary, or to help you diagnose some other problem (if the car won't turn over at all).

    The fuel line may just be loose at the fuel pump, but it could also be cracked. If it still leaks after tightening it up, just go to to your local auto parts store with the line in hand and get a piece of 3/8 inch brake line. If the brake line dosen't already have the correct threaded end on it, get a brake line adapter that does...

    That could very well be your problem, your gas may be leaking out before it ever gets to the carb...
     
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    oh ok i got it thanks. Is the new fuel line I get gonna be made of metal too? dumb question: WHat do you mean by a threaded end? thanks alot :tiphat:
     
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    Yes, it will be metal. Generally when you buy brake line, you can get it in various lengths, with the ends already flared with a threaded end on it. I would get a piece about 3 foot long. Screw it into the fuel pump, and then bend it up and around like the stock line. Cut the other end off where it needs to be to reconnect the rubber line to the fuel filter.
     
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    just to let you no. that if its not the fuel line, a new starter will cost you around 34 dollars for a new starter from Orillies.
     
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    Take your old one with you to the parts store, to get the correct one. you can even get them at walmart.
    I bet your car will stay running after you replace the fuel filter. It will take a little bit of cranking to get the carb full of gas, then it should run. If not let us know.
     
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    alright. Thanks alot for the help! question: is it possible for the carb to have too much gas? How much gas is there suppose to be in the fuel bowl? Im going to get everything and try to start it on the weekend. When I try and start it, should I press on the gas pedal too? oh yeah another thing I need to know. lets say my battery dies after a while of cranking. Is going to autozone and charging it the same as trying to jump start it? which is better? Another thing: lets say the car doesnt starts. Will the starter get bad if a I try too much again? how many times should I try cranking it or is there some certain way I should do it? :tiphat:
     
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    I usually try not to crank continuously for more then 5-10 seconds. After a couple of minutes, give the starter time to cool off. If it dosen't act like it's going to start after cranking it several times, I would put a tiny bit of gas in the carb and see what it does. It may take a minute or so for the gas to get back up in the lines and fill the fuel bowl.

    The amount of gas in the fuel bowl is governed by the float. The angle of the float can be adjusted, but I wouldn't suggest doing that at this point as you could be creating more problems. If to much gas is in the carb, it will be pretty obvious when it starts comeing out the vent tube, and the car starts up, runs like crap and starts blowing a bunch of black smoke.
     
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    oh ok. I just remembered something else. On the carb like on the top half of it where the fuel bowl is and stuff, gas sometimes leaks out. Theres a gasket there and its where there all the bolts are for the top half of it. Do I need a new gasket or what? thanks alot oh yeah and by putting gas into the carb you mean like into the choke or into that little tube thing close to it?
     
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    Sounds like once you get it running, you need to pull the carb and put a rebuild kit in. That is something I would have a mechanic do, and see if he would let you watch and explain what he is doing.

    Since you say that it is leaking around the top of the carb, don't try pouring gas in it. For one, that means you do have gas in the carb, and for two, if it were to backfire through the carb, you could get a pretty good little fire going...
     
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    damn that sucks!
     
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    question: could a bad fan belt be the problem? maybe the belt isnt gripping everything that is suppose to turn at ignition. :huh: Oh yeah what about the points?
     
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    I didn't see if anyone answered this or not, but a threaded end is the end with the spirals on it. Sort of like a screw has the head with the notch for the screw driver, and the threaded end. Usually threaded, as far as I know, refers to the hole the screw or bolt goes into, but it's the side that screws in/is screwed onto.

    Your problem sounds like mine only amplified many times over (mine at least starts and runs well). I'm now itching to check several bits on my own motor to see if they're clogged etc; I'll be keeping an eye on this thread, and good luck!! (y)
     
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    Points was mentioned earlier, but you can check the fan belt easily. Go out and press down on the belt (lightly), or try to turn your fan by hand. If the fan can turn fairly easily, or you don't have to put major muscles into it I'd say it's too loose. On a 302 it's an easy fix of loosening some bolts, prying the tensioner back a bit more, hold it there and tighten the bolts back up. Dunno how to work it with a I6 though, haven't worked on one of those yet.
     
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    yea its not that easy to turn so I guess it is still good. Now I know what the threaded end is thanks alot !!!!!:tiphat:
     

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