Control Valve help

Discussion in 'Technical' started by MikeG747, May 24, 2006.

  1. MikeG747

    MikeG747 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2005
    Messages:
    1,516
    Likes Received:
    59
    Trophy Points:
    208
    Garage:
    1
    Location:
    Arkansas
    Vehicle:
    1973 Maverick Grabber, 347 4V w/F-1X, 1974 Maverick Grabber 302 4V, 1974 Maverick Grabber 302 2V, 1971 Maverick Grabber 302 4V.
    Guys I had major slack where my Power Steering Control Valve attached to my Pittman Arm. Put it in the shop & had it replaced. Guy said the 1st new one he put on this morning leaked like crazy so he took it off & replaced with another new one. My Steering has Zero slack in it now but......Now the Power Steering is not as smooth as before. When I slow down to make a turn with brake applied it make the steering wheel very hard to turn. Also when I'm sitting still with brake applied I can turn wheel to left with ease but when I turn wheel to right it is very hard to turn. Would you guys guess that the shop hooked the hoses up wrong or think it would be a faulty Control Valve. Your input would be appreciated.
    Thanks
     
  2. boss9

    boss9 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2005
    Messages:
    569
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Akron,Ohio
    Vehicle:
    77 4-door 250 I6
    Be careful if the hoses are crossed ! I always thought the hoses were size specific (meaning you couldn't cross them ) But a friend replaced something on his Fairmont, reached through the steering wheel to turn the key on, the wheel spun so hard it almost broke his wrist !!
     
  3. broncoisl

    broncoisl Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2006
    Messages:
    288
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    100
    Location:
    Iceland
    Vehicle:
    1974 Comet 351W
    It probably needs to be adjusted.

    When your control valve is properly centered, the wheel should remain completely still with the car running and the effort to turn the wheel in either direction should be equal.


    Check the instructions here:
    http://www.stainlesssteelbrakes.com/pdf/A0725-A0725-1.pdf
     
  4. rayzorsharp

    rayzorsharp I "AM" a Maverick!

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2002
    Messages:
    11,256
    Likes Received:
    66
    Trophy Points:
    298
    Location:
    Grand Bay, Alabama
    Vehicle:
    Three 71 Maverick Grabbers, a 72 302 Sprint, a 73 LDO 2door parts car, a 76 silver v8 Stallion.
    I agree with Boss9 here...I've seen this exact thing happen when they were crossed. It would not be drivable.
     
  5. Comick76

    Comick76 Grease Monkey

    Joined:
    May 21, 2006
    Messages:
    359
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    San Angelo, TX
    Vehicle:
    76 Comet
    Adjustment is the answer. I rebiult my own and caused the same problem. Adjustment fixed it
     
  6. Comick76

    Comick76 Grease Monkey

    Joined:
    May 21, 2006
    Messages:
    359
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    San Angelo, TX
    Vehicle:
    76 Comet
    an old man showed me that if you raise the front wheels with the motor running and the valve is out of adjustment the wheels will turn by themselves. Just please set the parking brake!
     
  7. MikeG747

    MikeG747 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2005
    Messages:
    1,516
    Likes Received:
    59
    Trophy Points:
    208
    Garage:
    1
    Location:
    Arkansas
    Vehicle:
    1973 Maverick Grabber, 347 4V w/F-1X, 1974 Maverick Grabber 302 4V, 1974 Maverick Grabber 302 2V, 1971 Maverick Grabber 302 4V.
    Took it back to the shop. Had them check the adjustment & troubleshoot. Still have the same problem. The shop said they think it might be my power steering Pump.:slap: The Pump is relatively new & worked perfect before we changed the Control Valve?:huh:
    The car drives ok going down the road. The problem is when slowing down to make a turn or turning the wheel while sitting still. It's a little hard to turn & you can feel it sort of pulsating as your trying to turn it. Any more ideas????
     
  8. broncoisl

    broncoisl Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2006
    Messages:
    288
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    100
    Location:
    Iceland
    Vehicle:
    1974 Comet 351W
    I have exactly the same symptoms, got a brand new valve from autokrafters :mad:. Opened the pump, some minimal scoring, valve not stuck. What I will do next is install the old leaking valve to confirm if it's the pump or the valve.
     
  9. Comick76

    Comick76 Grease Monkey

    Joined:
    May 21, 2006
    Messages:
    359
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    San Angelo, TX
    Vehicle:
    76 Comet
    probably the valve is bad. There's not a lot of people left that actually know what they are doing on these type systems. Don't suppose you want to drive to texas? If I could see it I could fix it.
     
  10. 74merc

    74merc computer nerd

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2002
    Messages:
    848
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    90
    Vehicle:
    1974 Comet
    Those valves are fun. Takes some time to tweak, and sometimes you just can't fix it. On my 4 door, we rebuilt the control valve, worked absolutely perfectly. On my 2 door, it was always harder to turn to the right. The only time we got it equal, it turned to the right on its own, which wasn't adjusted right. Rebuilt it again, replaced it with an old one that we rebuilt (spare parts are nice), finally just got rid of it and installed the manual adapter, which is nothing more than a control valve with no slack for the valving system or the head the lines attach to.
     
  11. MikeG747

    MikeG747 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2005
    Messages:
    1,516
    Likes Received:
    59
    Trophy Points:
    208
    Garage:
    1
    Location:
    Arkansas
    Vehicle:
    1973 Maverick Grabber, 347 4V w/F-1X, 1974 Maverick Grabber 302 4V, 1974 Maverick Grabber 302 2V, 1971 Maverick Grabber 302 4V.
    Hope I don't have to do that but I do appreciate the offer.(y)
     
  12. MikeG747

    MikeG747 Member

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2005
    Messages:
    1,516
    Likes Received:
    59
    Trophy Points:
    208
    Garage:
    1
    Location:
    Arkansas
    Vehicle:
    1973 Maverick Grabber, 347 4V w/F-1X, 1974 Maverick Grabber 302 4V, 1974 Maverick Grabber 302 2V, 1971 Maverick Grabber 302 4V.
    I went to the Shop yesterday & told them it still wasn't right. They said they will order another Control Valve & put it on next week.
     
  13. rayzorsharp

    rayzorsharp I "AM" a Maverick!

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2002
    Messages:
    11,256
    Likes Received:
    66
    Trophy Points:
    298
    Location:
    Grand Bay, Alabama
    Vehicle:
    Three 71 Maverick Grabbers, a 72 302 Sprint, a 73 LDO 2door parts car, a 76 silver v8 Stallion.
    Good deal...I also think that's what it's gonna take.
     
  14. 74merc

    74merc computer nerd

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2002
    Messages:
    848
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    90
    Vehicle:
    1974 Comet
    Another thing to keep in mind, if it worked fine before, it might have a piece of trash in the system somewhere, maybe in the hydrualic cylinder.
     

Share This Page