Fuel pressure questions

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  1. scooper77515

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    I have Edelbrock 600 and Performer 351 mechanical fuel pump. I thought I was sucking the carb dry (saw the fuel filter emptying out at times and sputtering every now and then) so I put in a pressure guage. It goes right up to 6 psi when it starts up at idle, but if I idle for a while and then drive slowly through the walmart parking lot, it starts to slowly drop down to 2 or 3 psi. Of course, if I gun it out of the parking lot, it drops a little more until it builds up pressure within 30 seconds or so.

    Sometimes when I gun it while passing or taking off, the pressure will drop to 4 or 5, sometimes 3 psi, but quickly build back up.

    Today, I gunned it from a redlight, and it started at the 3 psi, and it spit and sputtered as I took off, and by the time I hit 2nd gear, it was zeroed out. It stayed at 0 psi for about 10 seconds making all kinds of sputter (kind of embarrassing :cry: ). Once I got to 60 mph in 3rd gear, it started to rise back up.

    Most of the time, it stays at 6, or hovers around 5 or 6. But there are a few times when it drops.

    Is this all normal, or should it stay pretty close to 6 ALL THE TIME? The Edelbrock carb needs 6 psi, no more, to keep from flooding out. The pump is supposed to be matched to the carb and supply that 6 psi at all RPMs.
     
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    i would not be happy with that type of variation in fuel supply. is tank pickup okay? sounds like something restricted maybe? crimped line? can borrow a pump to swap? pickup clpgging in tank? tank vent plugged?
     
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    Maybe vapor lock. The line isn't close to any heat source(exhaust) is it?
     
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    i run a holley blue at 8psi. can't see the gauge from inside the car. but if i hit the linkage on the carb and rev it up it dosen't fluctuate much at all. i don't think what your seeing is normal.
     
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    I had the tank off a couple years back, filled it with fishtank rocks, and shook it for a couple of days to knock off all the rust. then used a kit to etch then epoxy coat the tank.

    I took off the charcoal canister, all the lines to it, and the vent tubes at the top of the tank were corroded closed, so I left them alone. If the cap is not vented, then the tank is currently not vented.

    All the rubber lines have been replaced, and I blew out the metal lines from back to front, until it was clean. New filter, new pump 3 years ago.

    How do I tell if the cap is vented, and/or how do I make it vented?

    I will try that first and see what happens.
     
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    i dont think anything after about 1970 has a vented cap, so vent your tank and see if that fixes your problem. check for crimped lines?
     
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    Will drilling a hole in the cap, or filler tube make it vent enough to solve my problem (these being the highest point in my fuel system). Otherwise, I will have to take the tank off, drill out the venting tubes on top, and fabricate some kind of venting system, maybe with a small breather/air filter coming out on top of the tank?
     
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    first, see if an early year mav has a vented cap. if so, then get one. just drilling is not a good idea since it will dump fuel when full during acceleration (ever seen a 60's chevelle leave the line with a full tank? thats gas coming out.) vented caps are somewhat internally baffled. i put a new mustang tank in with a fresh vent and put a short length of vac hose on it to extend it foward some toward the axle. didnt run it all the way forward to the canister (lazy).
     
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    Bingo.
     
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    I think some of the early mustang caps fit the maverick. I think some of them are vented.
     
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    Is this a vent?
     
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    not necessarily. is that orig cap? if car had canister, then cap isnt vented. mustangs early are vented. i dont know exact year canisters started. my '72 cuda had canister on it.
     
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    That is the correct style cap for 71 and later. The early caps where flat in the center.
     
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    The cap is original, so I guess it is not vented...right now. It will be soon. As soon as I figure out how to drill a hole in the top part of the cap without messing up the rubber seal...
     
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    Before drilling the cap try it with the cap off or loose
     

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