Can someone help me with hp est?

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  1. streetrod77

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    Dave, I have a buddy that has a 289 in a mustang, will my Air Gap fit his 289? Also will the Toker 289 or the Wieand Xcellerator work for crusing the street too. What is a Offy Port O Sonic, never heard of it. Last do you recommmend a new carb. Someone told me that the Holley HP series is what I should have got or a 650 Race Demon. I might be able to sell the carb with the intake.
     
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    How do the Torker 289 feel crusing the streets on low RPM's? Don't get the new Torker right, stay with the old one. I'm tring to make sure I get the right parts this time because this the last time for now.
    :hmmm:
     
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    Sorry for all the quotes, I don't know how to link them as one reply.
    It I can't find a Torker 289, will the Torker II work just as well. I look at the Offy intake and sounds like it might be overkill, Dave are you sure that need to be one of my choices. I never heard of that company before but I was told the if you want a good intake use Edelbrock. :)
     
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    I run the weiand accelerator and love it. But, I have a combination that runds best at/above 3000 rpm. Also running a 3000 stall and 4.11's.
     
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    I am not a torker expert, but the reason I bought one was many of the guys on here recommended it for my setup and kind of driving. I have been told the new Torker II is crap.

    My personal experience with the old torker is runs great all over. Accelerates very quickly from idle, or from cruise to passing. I have not gone above 5500 due to my bottom end being stock and my current cam really is only good to 5000-5500.

    I swap up from a Performer 289, and it was crap compared to this one. It was better than stock, but just didn't cut it. Slow acceleration, no response. Of course, my other engine modifications that went into the most recent project, including the torker swap, all helped as well.
     
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    Torker II is crap. Keep the Air Gap intake. AFR 185's or TFS Twisted Wedge heads. Might check on the Brodix heads also. They seem to be working well. Don't believe all the hype you hear from Powerheads either.
     
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    Agreed, the T2 has a very large and elongated plenum with short runners. It is crap. The intake was redesigned in the early 80s due to emission plumbing and need for hood clearance. The T289 was also very complex casting in comparison. The redesign was Edelbrock's way of pinching a penny, not improving the Torker.

    The Offenhauser POS is a very good performing intake. It is the most aggressive mild single plane. Flow and dyno tests put it tops for the SBF, except for the wild single plane intakes like Vic Jr.
    The Wieand is slightly milder than the T289, and still available new.
    The T289 is middle of the bunch and no longer available new.
    Even with a 218@.050" cam, stock c4, 3.00 gears, and 600 Holley... I had tons of torque and response with my old Sprint.
    It has a lot to do with 2 things:
    By sheer physics, the SBF responds better to single plane intakes than using a dual plane for the sake of low rpm torque.
    Then, the Mav is so light, there is not really a big need for excessive torque, compared to say brand X Camaros. Very piggy cars, so torque is needed. The brand X small block also responds to dual planes better because of it's additional half inch of stroke.

    I politely must disagree with keeping the RPM intake.
    Also, must remind that heads with 1.84 to 1.94 inch valves are best for your pistons and combo. 2.02s are only going to be a direct bolt on if you use TWs.
    If you only have so much to spend, think it over hard, and maybe just do small things at first. Either that or buy your heads with the lump, then plan on other stuff for later.
    I wouldn't swap valves in your current heads. It is not cost effective.
    Port match the intakes, no hogging them out!
    Hog and polish the exhaust.
    This is only if you intend to reuse your heads.
    Also, shave them a little for some compression, while you got em off.

    Good luck
    The decision is yours, we will all tell you something different and confuse you if you let us! ;)
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    Ratio, I disagree with the Accelerator vs Torker comment IMO. I have ran both in my combination and the weiand pulled harder and longer than the torker289. At least for me anyway
     
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    okay, this is it. I have talked to 3 places that port heads. 2 does CNC porting & 1 does porting by hand. They all says the same as the link EFIMAV post earlier. Flow numbers are in the area of 230-240 using larger valves. This is going to have to work unless I can sell the GT40 heads with the rockers. The rockers are the same rockers that was used in the article that EFIMAV posted. They were about $320 & I can't spend that much on another set without selling these. I think they only work on ford stock heads too. Thanks for all the help. I would like a better set of heads but I have a lot in the ones I got now. I'll let you know how the porting goes. I think I might go up on the carb too.
     

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