Intake Question, How Bad Is Too Bad?

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  1. Noahg

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    I just recently bought an Edelbrock intake and I paid too much for what I got but I rode an hour and a half to get there and didn't want to come back empty handed. I'm wondering if this will still be usable and if so how worth it is it to try and sell and buy one in better shape? I've already lined the gasket up and it's still hitting a decent amount of metal on all coolant ports but they are pretty gnarly. Also if it will work, how can I clean out the coolant ports? I've dremeled as far as I can into them.
     

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    That third picture shows precious little gasket surface metal. You could probably apply gasket sealer to the manifold gasket in that area to prevent leakage. To be honest, I wouldn't go to the trouble of putting that manifold on my engine.

    Your manifold appears to be an Edelbrock Performer as opposed to a Performer RPM? If that is the case, you have the lowest performance level of Edelbrock manifold available. In my experience about the only advantage to that manifold over your stock unit is that it is a four barrel and less weight.

    For my money plus the 3 hour drive time and expense I would have purchased one of the following delivered to my door.
    If your Edelbrock is in fact a Performer level manifold, both of these manifolds would be a performance upgrade.

    Just as a heads-up, the picture of the Weaind manifold on the Summit website shows a polished chrome example. For $190 you do not get polished chrome. Plus it's a small block Chevy application.

    http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-226033/overview/make/ford

    http://www.summitracing.com/parts/wnd-8020wnd/overview/make/ford

    Just my opinion. Good luck with your project!!!!!
     
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    If you want to keep it,go to eastwood prdts & they make an excellent prdt called Metal to Metal.It is much better than JB weld & if applied properly can easily repair that.
     
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    glassbead/sandblast the port untill clean...clean...clean...:yup:
     
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    Thanks guys, so I don't have a sandblasted and would have to pay someone for that work. I bet I could get my 80$ back for the intake or at least somewhat close to that. Is it weird that I don't really want to put an intake made in China on my car? I know it doesn't matter much and it's not like you'll see it that great. Does the Weiand perform as good as the RPM?
     
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    My opinion is the Weiand Stealth and the Edelbrock Performer RPM are equally great manifolds. You will however, pay more for the Edelbrock.
     
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    I wouldn't put that on my car.
     
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    Thanks everyone. Looks like I'll try to get what I can for mine and buy a new one. I want to do it right the first time. Off topic question, is it true the 73 ford maverick dropped 80ish hp in the v8? My 4 door doesn't really feel like it's got 135 but I also haven't driven many cars so what would I know.
     
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    Agreed! It is likely you will have a leak at mating surfaces and have drive ability issues and u will have to replace it anyway.
     
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    I think you are referring to the drop in HP from 210 gross HP in 1971 down to 143 net HP in 1972 and then 137 or 138 net HP in 1973. The first drop was due mostly to changing from gross HP to net HP which all manufacturers did. Net HP is measured with all the accessories and exhaust system installed. I believe there was also a drop in compression that year. Subsequently there was another drop in compression in 1973.

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    The difference in quality between manifolds produced in China is all over the place. The Summit Stage 2 intake is essentially a Weiand Stealth. I once had each pulled from stock at Summit and the castings and machine work were not perceptively different, other than the name that was cast into the intake. While Holley does cast the Stealth (and probably the Summit intake) in China, they go a long way in ensuring the quality is top notch.

    Such is not the case with the Chinese knockoffs of the Edelbrock Performer and Performer RPM intakes, which I have also seen in person. The casting and machining quality of the Chinese "Performer"/"Performer Air Gap" is so bad that I would not buy one for any price. Summit sells one of these intakes and calls it their Stg 3 intake. I would be ashamed of displaying it if I were them.

    The Performer RPM and the Stealth intakes are both excellent intakes. If I were buying used, I would take either.

    Weiand Stealth and it's Summit Stg #2 clone:

    WeiandStealth.jpg Stealthcopy.jpg
     
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    Thanks Maverick Dude for the explanation on the HP, makes more sense now. I'm sure with the opened up exhaust and all that jazz there's a decent difference.
    Thanks Rotorr, I'll probably end up going with the summit stage 2 then. I'll probably just buy it now so I can get this swap done.
     
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    Yes I`ve also heard the professional products hurricane manifold( Vic Jr knockoff) runs lean on the outside cyls.
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised. Every "Professional Products" manifold I have looked at is rough on both the outside and inside. I'll wager that no two are alike!

    On the other hand, the TFS R series carb manifolds are very nicely made, as are the Eddy Victor series. I would consider either where hood clearance is not an issue and high RPM HP is the objective. I wish AFR and Dart made an intake for our engines, as their Chevrolet stuff look pretty good as well.
     

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