STOP? What the heck for...this is fun! Hey, TL, what would one have to give you for you to sell your '73? Cash in hand, moolah! Dinero? How much? Seth And don't hand me that crap about ...oh, I could never sell it... Everything is for sale!! How much?
It is a live post why try to kill it. Its alive and kicking better then coming on here and seeing that nothing new on
Disagree Corbin. It's a lively debate with no name calling or hostility. It is hardly bickering, it is constructive dialogue about the state of our passions and hobby and what they might be worth. It's clear that you didn't come from a large Italian family!!! As fas as NADA goes, what they try to do and what they actually accomplish are two different things. I dare you to find a well equipped, Grade 1, 1972 V-8 powered Maverick available at $3400. I dare you.
Ok, ok, you guys!! Sorry for being a turd. I do admit that it is rather interesting, and entertaining but I was caught at an iritatable moment, and I just posted. Disregard that. Yeah, I didn't come from a large Italian family, but I did come from one where in our younger years most all arguing broke into fights. Well, I guess that applies to any family, especially ones with 3 boys! Anyway........Keep it coming........ I think the interior should have been cleaner, but what do you expect from a 30 year old car? -Corbin
I hardly call it "bickering" either. Yes Corbin, no disrespect to you but the fact is that if you are not interested in this topic, you certainly don't have any obligation to continue reading the followup posts. It's all philosophical anyway. Littleredtoy; You're right--everything IS for sale (except for my soul) and right now the price for My Maverick is $20,000. That does not make it actually worth 20k, but simply that I am not willing to let go for less at this point in time. Your point is well taken however. Ultimately, regardless of what has been said on the subject, there is no denying that something is worth whatever someone's willing to pay for it. And we all know that one man's junk is another man's treasure. So we all have out opinions and personal preferences here. I think that for $4600, it should have been a COMPLETE restoration (including interior). I know, I'm beating a dead horse here, but I enjoyed it. Cheers...
T.L.-A complete restoration for $4600!!!??? Could you please do the math for me... Engine rebuild with goodies=$? Body & paint(jams, trunk & engine bay included)=$? Wheels & tires=$? Front & rear suspension rebuilds=$? Replating all the chrome=$? Weatherstrips, trunk mat. etc.=$? Transmision rebuild=$? All electrical=$? Brakes=$? Complete interior with buckets & painting of the metal surfaces=$? Price of the original car=$? Did you purchase a rust free car that needed no panel replacement/repair? Another add if there is existing rust. I may not agree with your evaluation of the ebay car, but I really don't agree with your restoration numbers, unless you know MAGIC. Aren't you the same guy that stated it would take $20,000 to buy your car? Why is that, if you could restore another one for $4600????
here is a good deal on a Maverick http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2400916742&category=6057
TL..... When I sit down with people I represent in marketing their homes, often the offer I am presenting them is less than the asking price on the home. For example: I have one on my desk right now that is $170K on a list price of $175K. One question I always ask the seller when they balk at a less than asking offer is... '...would you buy it back for what the buyer is offering?.... because if you turn it down, that is really what you are doing.' So, if I offer you $10,000 for your '73 and you turn me down, you are overpaying in your own opinion.
I dont think that analogy works for me because of my time factor. If I have alot of time invested in a project, be it a car or house, when its time to sell I put a higher value on the object. The person buying is going to pay for some of my time investment. Now, if I was to buy it back, I'm not going to pay myself for my own time. Therefore, I would sell something of mine at a higher price than I would buy it back for.
Pro street normally aspirated 289 putting out 500hp? My arse! I'd like to see a dyno sheet on THAT one!! I bought a 1977 Maverick two years ago on eBay for $3100. It was a 31,000 mile original, bone stock, garage kept, San Jose car driven by an old man until he died in 1986. It had just maintenace miles after he died. I bought it from his son after the mom died in an estate. That Maverick was as about as good of original condition that you can find. I promptly pulled off the VV carb and intake and emmisions stuff and replaced with Holley/Weiend. $500. I built a custom dual exhaust system for it. $300 I relaced the 1980 bias ply tires with a set of repro Magnums, 15x7 and 15x8, and shod them with Radial T/As. $1000 OK, now I have 5 grand into the car, not counting driving it back from CA, all the little maintenance things, and the cam, heads, and shift kit I will put in this spring. After that, I will be at $6000. Then comes suspension..... Is it worth it on the open market. Nope. Not by most peoples standards. But I don't regret doing it. With that considered, if that car on eBay had the right wheels and tires on it for my tastes, $4600 is a very fair price to me. I have a 69 Mustang fastback, also from California, also completely rust free. I Have $6000 into it with interior work, and a completely new suspension with wheels and tires. I still need to spend $5000 painting it, and probaly about $7500 on the drive train. Will it be worth $18,500 when I am done? Probably not. I don't care. I love it. Both cars provide me with tons of enjoyment. Besides, the stock market sux. Might as well drive your lousy investments.
Mavaholic.... That makes you no different than the majority. The purpose of that question is to get people to think rationally and remove the emotion. Whether it is a car or a house, sorry but houses tend to be more emotional because of the $$'s, people usually think about all the time they invested in the garden or the self-done body work and the fact that their kids grew up in that house or with that car. The question puts the seller in the position of a buyer hopefully giving them a different point of view.
50 LBS. Yes, it's the 50 pound flywheel that raises the Horsepower. Once you eventually get the flywheel turning, it works off of momentum!
Sure, a 289 with a mega cam, 12:1 compression, and aftermarket heads can make 500hp---at about 8,000 RPM. It won't idle below 1500 RPM and will be rough as hell. It will also be a complete DOG off-the-line. I agree, it's B.S. I do not have 20k invested in my Maverick, I just stated that I am not willing to sell it for less than that at this time. I still have plans for it. Right now, I have maybe 5k into it and the original purchase price is nothng because my dad gave it to me. As far as "doing the math", it was never established that the car needed all of the items or work listed. Who says it needs the chrome replated? Mine is 30 years old and still in good shape. If you spend 50k restoring and customizing a Maverick, YOU WILL NOT GET 50K FOR THE CAR WHEN YOU SELL IT. You will also not be reimbursed for your "time". By the way, those wheels were butt-ugly, but to each his own I guess...