water 302

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  1. Comet155

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    Sorry Loki, don't know much about the project you're working on.
    Stman: What sort of issues are you having with the alternator?
     
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    Quote...Loki... good luck on getting this project started....if i knew anyhting about electronics i would help you out....you never know....you could be the next person to invent another alternative fule that will solve the worlds energy problems.. and after all... therre is a lot of water on earth....80% of the planet is covered in it.(Quote)

    Nah, Loki will be the next guy the Oil companies pay millions to, so he'll keep his mouth shut...why do you think we are not already riding around in hydrogen powered vehicles.:16suspect
    Don't forget us Loki when you get the big bucks:)
     
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    if this works im gonna take my time in letting the info out so i dont have problems with the oil companies and the government until were at an oil crisis big enuff that they cant afford to shut me up
     
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    Good idea. Just don't forget your ole buddy ole pal 155! I have no problem accepting loot if you feel you need to spread some around. LOL!
    :)
     
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    Dan Starnes Original owner

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    Interesting start to this thread. I hope you find the answer dude. and gee whiz,, I have learned some scientific stuff here. Glad I read it. I guess others expect infinate wisdom here for nothing. I guess we dont have the ability to cure the world here, or fix every gremlin in our cars,, but within working with each other,, maybe we can?
    Dan
     
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    If anyone can find someone that will ceramic coat cylinders and pistons let me know it doesnt matter where in the US you are thats the last stage i havent figured out before i can test it
     
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    Hey Loki, now that fuel will be hitting 3.5 to 4 f*ck bucks a gallon, I suppose there will be more pressure on alternatives. How is your water motor coming along?

    Throw us a bone!
     
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    wow been a long time since ive been on here lol well im back to the electronics stage because the original guy fell through:mad:
     
  10. maverick1970

    maverick1970 MCG State Rep

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    Can't promise anything for sure. Would be happy to look at the schematics to see if I can assist.
     
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    Welcome back. Keep us posted on any further developments.
    Did the heads work out? And did you keep the wheels and gumballs?
     
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    well i know i cant be of help but my uncle is an actual inventor he has started more then 6 companies all around machanics he does his own wiring and building from scratch but he is in missouri if you want some info to contact him or something then send me a pm
     
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    Law of thermodynamics conservation of energy and entropy. You can't run on just water. You either have to consume a metal in acid to develop hydrogen that could run through a fuel cell, or develop a metal hydride that could be consumed in a tank of water that will create H2 gas that can either be burnt or once again run through a fuel cell. I've already looked into this. There's really no way to get a car to run on water. Besides, there's all the leftover crud in the tank you need to consider too. Algea (sp?) green stuff also likes to grow in tanks full of water, so you'd have to put herbacide in there too and I don't know how that would affect the chemical reaction. Turning chemical energy into heat into mech energy is easy, but very very very very very inefficient. Turning chemical energy into electrical into mechanical is pretty darn efficient. I'd try to figure out a way to make a cheap, lite, easily rechargable battery. Or find a way to make fuel cells run on gasoline or other stuff without fouling the catalyst. Also if you could make it out of something other than precious metals that would be good too. Good Luck!!!!

    On hydrogen: Even as a liquid, hydrogen is not dense enough to provide a sufficient range in an automobile. You also have the problem that hydrogen is small enough that it can pass interstitially between molecules and "evaporate" out of pretty much any container you put it into in any state. The only feasible way to transport hydrogen is in a solid state, which means combining it with a metal such beryllium, magnesium, sodium, etc in the form of a hydride. In this state you get a much higher hydrogen density without all of the problems normally associated with transporting hydrogen.
     
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    so its inefficient to have a chamber that uses an electrode to seperate the h and the o and burn the h and exhaust the o?
     
  15. rayzorsharp

    rayzorsharp I "AM" a Maverick!

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    Yeah...that's what I was gonna say!!! :whistle:
     

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