Rebuilding a Cylinder Head

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  1. Angryeyes

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    Hey all I've been making a LOT of progress with my turbo-I6 build. Got ahold of a suitable ignition... etc, now for the problem.

    So I have the head pulled off and I have it ground flat for the 2 bbl carb plate to be mounted. In the mean time I'm redoing the valve springs/etc.

    I have all the valves, retainers and keepers soaking in diesel fuel so I can remove the carbon deposits.

    I have some nice fresh Valve springs and stem seals on the way. Since 11 out of 12 of my seals were broken... and hard.

    Is there anything else that I could do myself that I should? Machining isnt out of the question but Id LIKE to be able to say "I built this car myself". None of the valves are burnt, and while they had a lot of buildup, they seem to be coming clean!

    Maybe Valve guides? Ill be honest, Im such a noob to the internals of an engine that when I started removing the first valve spring I thought I had broke he keepers since it came apart in two pieces.
     
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    Get the Six Cylinder Performance Handbook. It shows how to grind open the oil passage on the rear of the head and talks about making a smaller shank head bolt to allow more oil flow. Also it tells you which head bolt that uses sealer.
     
  3. Acornridgeman

    Acornridgeman MCCI Wisconsin State Rep Moderator Supporting Member

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    Having a pro do the valve seats and guides (if needed) will in no way diminish the "did all myself" claim. 99.9% of restored cars have some type of pro work done to it. Machinist work, turning brake drums and rotors, even balancing a driveshaft are often best left to the pros.

    The soft iron heads really benefit from hardened valve seats. On the 6's, I put them on the intakes too. It doesn't cost much more while the head is in the machine shop anyway and then I figure I never have to worry about them again. At least get the exhaust seats in.

    :)
     
  4. Angryeyes

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    I have the book in the mail, a long with a small fortunes worth of other parts, my intercooler arrived today :clap:

    Well I'm not even really sure how to tell if the guides need doing... and I'd rather not fix it if it aint broke ;p Especially with that fancy aluminum head/intake combo somewhere in my future. I'm replacing the springs but thats at least partially because I could collapse them a quarter of the way with just my hands... :bs: not sure what theyre actually rated at but Id say theyre tired after 43 years of loyal service.
     
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    Bryant forgot more than learned

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    you can and should at least lap the valves in your self. im sure that is covered in you soon to arrive book and a search on the internet will give you plenty of instruction on that. i dont know exactly how to check the condition of the valve guides. i think you can do a wiggle test but i dont know for sure. you can mic the valve stems then you have to measure the guide holes but im not sure what tool does that.
    the hardened seats are a very good idea, especially with boost. make sure your valve springs are strong enough for boost.
     
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    "aluminum head/intake combo somewhere in my future."

    I wouldn't spend a dime on this head...run it...:yup:
     
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    I wouldnt, if it was in my IMMEDIATE future. Unfortunately I've got a few years to go before I can just drop 2000 dollars casually on a head/intake! So I wanna get this head built enough to survive at least one season on weekends :drive: Ill see if a few of the mechanics I worked with over the summer cant take a look at it for me.

    Plus if I get the head built well enough to last TWO seasons, I can do the forged pistons and head at the same time :D I mean I'm already like 3000 in on this car but I got a lot more than three parts :D and that includes tools I bought.


    As a side note, don't buy dash caps off ebay.... they sent it literally bent like a 7 inside a box that was to small. It's cracked around where the instrument cluster is. I think they're going to replace it but they are NOT being nice about it
     
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    Must be the same guy that ships stuff to Craig .............. :rofl:
    (inside joke ........ could not resist)

    Seriously - make sure to file an ebay claim / dispute, right away. Ebay protection will side with the buyer for improper packaging like that.

    Don't deal with the seller directly, specially if he is being a jerk about it. Handle everything through ebay communication system AND NOT your private email. that way ebay has a record of it all.
     
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    Are you sure this fancy head/intake will clear the shock tower? It barley does clears on the 69 Mustang after notching the shock tower/firewall brace. Are you sure your hood will close with this setup?
     
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    No that guy ships with NO box! :cry:
    Now ya made me go look up that picture again :rofl2::rofl2:
     
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    Boosted motors MUST run positive style valve seals or they'll push oil and also contaminate the mixture.

    3 and 4 angle valve jobs will pay for themselves on N/A stuff and even quicker on boosted setups.
     
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    They are positive seals I think, I've decided Ill take it to a machine shop and at least see what he'll charge me.

    Im not sure if the fancy head will clear without some work, but work is fun :)

    and as for the ebay thing, I got a full refund, no return required. It IS damaged but not so damaged that I'll buy a new one, some work with a dremel making a few small relief cuts and a bit of super glue and you can barely tell its damaged, only on one corner of the instrument cluster part theres am inch long crack, but Itll sit flush

    I offered to return it and he said he didnt need damaged product, so I guess I got a 99% product for free.

    It was the shipping company that paid by the way, I got the product and the seller still kept his money.
     
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    Craig Selvey Indiana State Rep - MCCI

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    I have got a couple of boxes/packages in the last week or so that rank right up there. Even my daughter knew I was not going to be happy. Sure....that fits......:rolleyes:
     

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