maybe a turbo

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    ok first thing, i have a 75 mav with a 200 and i just fixed the engine so it runs pretty good but i have no power at all. that is expected with a 3.3 liter made in 75 but i want to get a turbo to put on it but i dont have a crap ton of money to spend. So if any one could give me advice and help me find one it would be most generous. thanks
     
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    MaverickDan I wanna go fast!!!

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    If you don't have a lot of money to spend I don't recommend a turbo. You could probably do a v8 swap cheaper and have the same amount of power.
     
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    I agree with Dan
     
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    turbos can be done at low cost if you have fabrication skills and find the right deals. also one persons idea of expensive is not the same as another.

    so what you would need to do to turbo you I6.
    get a turbo. not just any turbo but one that is properly sized for your intended use.
    you will need a carb that is modified for boost or switch to fuel injection.
    you will need a waste gate if you use a turbo that doenst have one built in.
    you will need to upgrade your fuel system to meet the increased fuel demands.
    you will need to be able to fabricate all the piping and fit it all in the car. this is where it gets pricey if you have to pay someone to do it.

    i know allot of guys who have made there own turbo systems that had no significant fabrication skills. they learned on the fly. now they usually had to go back and redo almost every thing several times to make it all work.

    if your not scared off yet then ask your next question. also check out http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/index.php
     
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    maverick75 Gotta Love Mavs!

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    The problems with 6 cylinders is that they cost 3 times as much to get a decent engine compared to a V8. Then it will only make 1/3rd of the power.

    Financially wise there's no reason to stick with the 6, unless you wanna spend more money and end up with less horsepower.

    But if you're dead set on sticking to the 6 and going turbo these guys build turbo projects on a budget. It's a honda based forum but the turbo stuff will translate over to your six.

    http://www.realhomemadeturbo.com/

    The one Bryant posted will have you drooling all over the place and making you wish you had a fab shop and tons of money :D

    There's an insane aussie six build on there.
     
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    Moneymaker 1 Green Street Beasts

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    well i was thinking about putting a 300 in it but the thing is to find one
     
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    Mavman72 Gone backwards but lookin' forward

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    The 300 is a more difficult swap than a V-8 swap...
     
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    why is it harder?
     
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    Mavman72 Gone backwards but lookin' forward

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    Taller/longer than the six in the car now...Mounts can be an issue as well as hood/rad clearance...Not saying dont do it...Just its not a simple drop in and go swap like a V-8 302 swap is. The 300 is a stout engine but...Its easier to make power with a 302 when you start talking doller per H.P. But, nothing wrong with being different!
    Good luck to you, which ever way you decide to go.
     
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    Forget the turbo and just do this! [​IMG]
    Seriously though, hopping a 6 is at least 3 times as expensive as a V8! The engine in the photo is not mine and I'll bet you it cost a bunch! :thumbs2:
    I have my original 250ci in my Maverick and really the only thing I would like to change is the Carter rbs carb. It was not the best design! :)
     
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    that makes since, but i was trying to be different too. also im trying to stay away from a v8 for the simple fact i drive it to work and home. but what else would you recommend
     
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    Bryant forgot more than learned

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    a small turbo can increase you MPG. it has to sized correctly. also your fuel control has to be very good. i would suggest swapping to efi first then consider putting turbo on. i would use a throttle body fuel injection. find a tbi unit from the 80s that can be adapted to the I6 intake. then i would use a mega squirt 2 with a wideband 02 set up to control the fuel and spark. this should get you better mpg. then you can add a turbo pretty easily.
     
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    while I would certainly agree with that.. the cost recovery of such a swap would take well more than a year of serious driving to recoup. Then there's the hundreds worth of tuning to be done to get it dialed in if you can't do it yourself too.

    It would definitely stand out as being different every time you popped the hood on the thing though. Whenever I dump that much time and money into an engine bay.. I don't even want to put the hood back on! lol

    Seriously though. If you are concerned about mileage?.. a well thought out and part matched low rpm/high torque V8 with taller rear gears and/or an overdrive gear with a tighter converter(or wide ratio manual) can easily net you near 30 mpg(or more with an OD) in such a light car. Even with a smaller 4 barrel Holley. Although it won't be that unique compared to that turbo'd fuelie.. you get to have your cake and taste it every time you open the secondaries. :burnout:
     
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    There are a couple of "Ole" phrases that kind of sump this all up;
    1. Being different costs more money.
    2. There is no substitute for cubic inches.
    3. It costs money to go fast, how much money do you have?
    4. Six in a row ain't slow.

    Here is article you should read and also take a look at the pictures because this Maverick has a 300cu.in. motor that uses the stock block, crank, rods, and head I believe. It is a tight fit but with a little fab work it will work.

    http://www.carcraft.com/featuredvehicles/ccrp_1108_1971_ford_maverick/viewall.html

    Also, take a look at this on YouTube;



    I have a 70 Maverick that currently has a 408w and turns in the low 10's/high 9's and I am trying to cut a deal to buy a race six cylinder (300+cu.in.) to replace the 408..................why?, because I want to be different!
    300cu.in. motors are getting a little harder to find, but the best ones came out of 1965/1968 Ford trucks...........and had a steel crankshaft.
    There are a couple of Ford six cylinder websites;

    http://www.fordsix.com/

    http://ford6.com/

    http://www.enginefacts.com/ford300.php

    http://www.inliners.org/
     
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