fuel cleaners?

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  1. baddad457

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    Have you checked the mileage since Chevron's gas is now 10% ethanol ? (as are all the other major brand's gasolines now )
     
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    Time to switch over to E85 :D last time i checked it was 2.25 for it down here. I only run 76/chevron. Arco is a joke out here, worst fuel ever.
     
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    All the gas in Washington has been 10% ethanol for years. I understand that thereis one station that requires private membership still sells non-ethanol gas but membership more than makes up for any loss you might have in mileage anyway. I still get 21mpg with the 10% ethanol gas in my 73 Maverick.
     
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    Yep...we have been on the 10% ethanol diet for a couple years in my area. Gas mileage did take a bad hit with the ethanol and I don't see how ethanol suppose to help if it takes more gas to go from point A to point B. Looks to me that we're in the same boat we were in to begin with trying to save our natural resources using ethanol. Kinda like the same thing back in the 70's with the emissions...retard the timing and burn more gas to get where you were going…but the tail pipe smelled good getting there.
     
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    And it takes more energy to convert corn to ethanol than what you get back from burning the ethonol.
     
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    Ethanol production consumes six units of energy to produce just one unit of energy. Not counting the environmental problem from the fertilizers used to grow corn.
     
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    Thats called government math.


    As far as fuel cleaners, I use that 1-quart bottle of Lucas fuel conditioner, you use 3oz of conditioner per 10 gallons of gas so one bottle is good for 106.6gallons of fuel. seemed like the best deal to me.

    I'm spending around $35.00 to $42.00 (91 octane) per fill-up every 3 days or so for my car, now that hurts.
     
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    Here in south dakota its only about 3.17 agallon wich isenough here and thats 10 percent ethanol the cheap stuf dont realy know what premium or regular are for price.
     
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    I've seen ASE papers that verify this.


    I have used BG 44K with great results. Intake valve deposits will form with or without EFI and they are much worse with ethanol. We have 10% ethanol and I run 87 octane with good results. Chevron is worth about 1-2mpg better than the cheap stuff.(if you call $3 a gallon cheap) All of the engines I've been into lately have had much thicker deposits and much more carbon build up compared to a few years ago. Used to be that only the city driven cars looked like this but now almost all of them do. Techron is good stuff tho. It's worth a tank every so often.
     
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    When making ethanol you have to add the amount of feed and fertilizer product that you get from the by-products to get the actual cost of production. When all the numbers are crunched it costs far less to produce ethanol than it does to refine oil into gas. Keep in mind that Brazil makes ethanol for fuel and it pays to do it. Not only is their ethanol fuel cheap but there are profits being made in the process.
     
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    the problem i have with ethanol is that the corn industy is or at least was heavly subsidised by the government. it was year or two ago that there was talk of a corn shortage because of it being used for ethanol. from what i understand its much easyer to make ethanol from sugar cane than corn. thats how brazil makes there. the lobbyist industy is the major problem here. farmers are geting there crops supported by the goverment just because its what they grow. thats is why we have corn ethanol.
    we are in a period of time where out energy sources will change and there will be problems but we are makeing foward advances.
    san diego only has one e85 station and thats about the only factor that keeps me from switching to it. when i feel that i can drive to arizona, las vegas, and los angles, then i will switch to e85. i do have the compression to run it just need the access to it.
    also from what i understand motors that run e85 are very clean and never need any sort of fuel system/valve cleaners.
     
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    chemtool burned all the carbon and gunk out of my carb and began to leak gas out of the sides the problem i had with burnt valves on the motor only got worse as it cleaned all the carbon off of them too.it does what its supposed to cleans the dirt off maybe just a little to well for my old motor.
     
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