help with chosing intake manifold and headers

Well im not going to get these Yet but probably when in a few months. I was talking to somebody on this forum and he said that these hooker headers are the best and that the guys on the forum swear by them. is that correct? here they are http://store.summitracing.com/partd...840126+4294925079+4294908284+115&autoview=sku
and i wanted also to get an intake manifold I was gonna pay the extra bucks and get me the Edelbrock AIRGAP manifold.
here http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=EDL-7564&autoview=sku
AND which one should i get first. I was thinking about getting the intake and then the headers.

 

Hooker 6901s will fit, and are the only ones that will (except for one model of Hedmans).

That airgap is supposed to be pretty nice. How are you going to drive the car and what kind of cam do you have? What heads?

These are all going to affect the performance and will add or detract from the performance of any intake you buy.

Doesn't really matter which you get first. Headers mean you will have to redo a good portion of the exhaust system, if not all of it...so keep that in mind when you think you are only paying $160 for the headers (might have to tack on another $150-350 for the rest of the exhaust, depending on what you have done).

Intake requires a four barrel carb at another $350+...stock carb will not work on it.

 

well i want to get some duals like this or as close as possible. but that WILL have to be made at the local exhaust shop right? So for both the intake and the headers i will have to get two things that go with it. It probably wont be a daily driver and i will never drive it out of the city. and if i do drive every day it wont be on the high way and only like 10 miles to my school.

 

The stock carb can be used on an aftermarket intake (if you're cash strapped) just use a 4 bbl to 2 bbl adapter. High rise dual plane intakes work well with even mild builds, so you choice won't cause driveability problems even if it's not "matched" to the rest of the build. I've used the regualr RPM on a bone stock 88 5.0 out of a Crown Vic, no driveability problems. It was topped with an 1850 Holley 600 carb. And a carb doesn't have to cost you $350+, good (barely) used ones can be had for half as much, if not cheaper.

 

http://www.theheadershop.com/

They have headers for us.
They also have short exhaust systems.

I don't know about their quality or reputation though.

 

i found this combo from summit racing it has an edelbrock performer intake and a four barrel carb, what do you think http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=SUM%2DCEDL002&autoview=sku
and its in my price range.(thats always good)

 

If it's just a "Performer", I wouldn't bother with it.
You can get a Weiand Stealth and have a 'right now' streetable intake, but one that's plenty aggressive enough to grow with.

My neighbor has a Stealth and 770 on his 302 and his 54 F100 really moves out.
Most folks would tell you that both intake and carb are too much for a heavy vehicle like that.

 

Yeah, stay away from the Performer stuff. Go RPM or equivalent. The Performer is just barely better than stock.

Good choice in exhaust setups...this is a picture of my car

 

did your local exhaust shop make that and how much because that is EXACTLY the kind of exhaust I want

 

Thats what I'm talking about!
Headers and short exhaust! Only mine would have sidepipes in a perfect world.

 

I had sidepipes for a while...



Loved them but they didn't fit with my headers. The header collectors were about 12" behind where the sidepipe in-line was, so I would have had to have done an S curve to make them fit. Muffler guy said he could not do that unless the pipe was 1-1-1/2" so at 2-1/2" there was no way to make those bends.



So, I sold the side pipes and went to a side exit exhaust. Then when I put in the Caltracs, I had to lose the side exhaust(exited RIGHT where the caltrac stuff was located) and finally went with what I really wanted...Dual with Flowmasters dumping at the axle. These are Flowmaster Super 44s (newest model) and they sound REALLY GOOD, but a bit loud. I am 35 db deaf, so it doesn't bother me. But the neighbors HATE it

The Super 44s are only 4" thick as opposed to the typical Flowmasters being 5" thick. They tuck up really nicely to the floor. My local guy did some bad work on my car, including catching the carpet on fire, so I went to the next town over and asked the Classic Car Restoration guy about who did good mufflers, and he recommended this guy. They did a pretty good job, and it was around $150 after I purchased the Super 44s at about $50 each.

That bring me to...Link to the sound clip...http://home.cmaaccess.com/~scodon/jpgs/super44installed.mp3

 

Gotta rig the shorty headers from a 5.0 for side pipes or what?

 

Bowstick,
I've got a Carter 600 CFM you can have for $100.00 Bolt right up to that 302, well with the manifold on.
Gageman

 

5.0 headers don't fit.
Not stock or aftermarket.
The engine bay in the 5.0 is much larger, so the pipes are too wide for a Mav/Com.

 

Loved them but they didn't fit with my headers. The header collectors were about 12" behind where the sidepipe in-line was, so I would have had to have done an S curve to make them fit. Muffler guy said he could not do that unless the pipe was 1-1-1/2" so at 2-1/2" there was no way to make those bends.


That's why a real bender/ Fabricator would offered to buy some mandrel bends, and then cut and welded as needed.