Granada disc brakes for Maverick?

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  1. topcat

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    I have heard that mk1 Granada hub assemblies fit the maverick, but mk1 grannies are getting hard to find over here now. Any idea if mk2 ones will fit?

    Will I need the granny master cylinder too or best finding an AP or other good aftermarket one?

    Also is it really worth having discs on the rear?
     
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    you're referring to the european granada, right? used for the swap is the american granada or the later model mavericks, as they shared the same spindles. i doubt any european equipment can be made to fit easily, the mustang guys would have started swapping a long time ago.

    on german ebay, an american granada setup went for 300€ tonight. you might get lucky on here and have it shipped over.

    discs in the rear are absolutely not needed, and i think that you can easily get away with front drums, if they are in good condition.
     
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    you need stuff of a granada like this not sure what a mk1 or mk2 granada is

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    Should have known :mad:

    Shipping is the pain! I saw someone on here is sellind maverick disc hubs etc but I recon they would be deer to ship. Thanks for sorting out my mistake!
     
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    Most American Ford Granada/Mercury Monarch/Lincoln Versailles front disc brake assemblies are a direct bolt on with Maverick/Comets. Ford Granada, in it's last few years (maybe around 1980 or so) where Ford switched it's Granada over to the Fox body platform with front struts. Nothing on them will work.
     
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    you may want to look in to aftermarket disk brake conversions sence geting orignal stuff is so expensive. most aftermarket brake companys like willwood, ssbc, bear, pbr, etc. have kits that fit the maverick. kits for 60s mustang will fit the maverick. you just need to use wheel bearings for the maverick. they have a larger spindle. there are also conversion brackets that let you use calipers and rotors from 94+ mustangs. i suspect that those parts are avaiable in europe.
     
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    i dont know what kind of fords you have there but i used spindles from a 72 to 76 torino, t bird,or ant=y mid size are the same. I have a thread in the new member forum showing and explaining this.
     
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    No the American Granada spindles will work the european Granadas are a different platform. It would be easier for you to get an aftermarket conversion or someone from the states to ship you a set from a Granada that will work on your car.
     
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    Thanks for all the replies, yea most of our cars are about half the size so should have guessed I was missing something!

    Is there any difference between the ones with power steering and without as far as swapping the parts go? Someone on here is selling disc set ups but for non pas cars- would they fit?
     
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    Hi,

    :Welcome: to the board.

    You can use Ford Granada, Mercury Monarch, and Lincoln Versailles spindles up to 1979. After that the US versions changed and are not compatible for our cars. Also 1974 and up Maverick and Comet assemblies are also good. I would avoid 1973 Mav/Comet hardware, unless it all you can find ... it was one year only, and a bit smaller.

    You will need to change the outer tie rod end to match the spindle, and get some proper brake lines, but other than that, the spindles are pretty much a bolt-on, regardless of power steering or power brakes.

    There is very little room to run a brake booster, and I elected to stay with manual brakes. Used a non-power Granada master cylinder straight from the parts store. You will want to shorten the rod that goes into the MC from the brake pedal, or else your pedal will be a bit high.

    Best of luck building it over there ... I am sure Tody in Germany can be a good source of ideas and moral support.
     
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    Hi I’m new to this forum so I’m sorry in advance but I can’t find how to do this swap anywhere. I have a 73 mav and the drivers side spindle is toast. Could you help me?
     
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    You need the spindles, rotors, calipers, wheel bearings, seals, flex-hoses, master cylinder, and the hard lines that go from the junction block to the front wheel area (for the passenger side, you need only the short hard line section that connects from the brass coupler fitting behind the spring tower to the flex-hose). It's a pretty straight forward swap. If you get a '74 master cylinder, you need to change only one fitting on one of the short lines from there to the junction block.
    For a '75-'77 master cylinder; both short lines with need the fittings changed to the correct size.

    I also recommend that you save the push-rod from your old drum brake master cylinder, as the one that was used with the disc brake master cylinder makes the brake pedal really high.

    'Would love to see more pics of your car. I highly recommend that you remove the hideous "battering rams" from the front bumper, and put a chrome bumper bolt in each of the two mounting holes. Looks so much better. If you cannot find any right away, there are two right behind the front license plate bracket that will work...
     
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    Hi NaturalState,

    Welcome to the fun! If you are looking for the basics on how to do the swap, there are probably YouTube videos as they pertain to early Mustangs (pre-1974). You are knocking the spindle off of the ball joint, and that takes some effort if you have never done this. You also are playing in a area with the front spring involved. Very dangerous if you do not have the shock in place. You do not want that flying out and smacking you to the ground, possibly for the last time. If you haven't done something like this before, have a friend who has help you.

    Granada and Monarch spindles are likely hard to find at this point. If you do, they use the same ball joints and it is a direct swap with the exception of changing the tie rod ends (easy). Lincoln Versailles spindles used a different upper ball joint, IIRC. Likely an added pain you don't need.

    I was just doing a search and these guys seem to have their act together in the Mustang world and some of that carries over to other Fords. Never dealt with them, but seem to be worth a look ...
    https://www.discbrakeswap.com/Mustang Disc Brake Conversion Kits CATALOG.html
     
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